and now for a more in-depth dive were happening happy to welcome john quelch the dean of miami university's business school and richard wolffe professor of economic emeritus at the university of managed to massachusetts amherst and the author of democracy at work a cure for capitalism welcome to you both professor quelch you're the our new guest 1st to you what are the prospects for a while way in this court's push here suing to overturn a de facto ban on u.s. companies doing business with wall way citing constitutional grounds how will they do in court on this. it's a calculated risk on the one hand while where he needs to get out the information to the public that there's really been no security breach that has been publicly revealed by the u.s. authorities on the other hand in the court it's likely that the u.s. government will argue that it needs a discovery process to reveal the technology and business practices of wall way in order to better make its case so it's a calculated risk i would say that given that we're talking about a summary judgment against an executive order of the from