commissioner quentin kopp and the ethics commission. findings of law and conclusions of law. based on the testimony and evidence presented the sunshine ordinance task force found that commissioner quentin kopp and the ethics commission violated the sunshine ordinance section 67.15. if a member of a commission wishes to unlawfully interrupt a member of the public, that's okay with you. commissioner kopp did it, commissioner keane endorsed it, and the rest of you sat silent. but when a member of the public speaks out of turn, that is he -- that's a no-no. what hypocrites you are. you would use the rules to maintain order because you don't like what's being said or you don't like the way people are saying it, so mr. keane's comment last time about mr. hart's we had a democratic process, why don't you respect it, was b.s. it wasn't a democratic process, it was a show trial, a show hearing. it was a joke. particularly hypocritical was chair keane's comments last time that i respect the democratic process. frankly, i take quentin kopp's referral to me as quote, that person, unquote

my concern is undue influence which could lead to corruption of quentin kopp who voted for the ordinance. kopp add the he has no ill will towards charities, a major beneficiary behested country abuses not necessarily from nonprofit organizations but corporations has been major lee. kopp said the practice is unseemly unquote. critics charged that the ordinance private right of action which allows anyone to bring civil suit against organizations allegedly violating campaign finance laws will lead to frivolous lawsuits. but an elected city attorney might be hesitant to pursue these kinds of claims. i'll quit here because of the interest of time. i wanted to say that i was pleased to see this editorial appearing. i think it's premature and we have time to go before we see the final outcome on our measure. but i did want to call the public's attention to this editorial in case they missed it in the paper since we are on television, i thought we'd take that opportunity tonight, thank you. >> mr. chairman. >> yes, commissioner -- >> i propose those public comments, mr. [inaudible] the title of