i've been in waziristan and in the north, in the quetta region, two most hostile regions i've seen allen a lot of places. >> it hasn't been defined with specificity. last year obama said the poison is in pakistan. the problem is in pakistan. the sanctuaries are there and he decided secretly, okay, these sanctuaries are unacceptable now. >> let me get another break in here and have a couple of minutes left on the other side of this break. we'll at least go to the topic that's already under way, which is who are the republicans going to nominate to challenge president obama? final thoughts from our roundtable, after this. to need a day job.going we actually have a lot of scientists that play music. the creativity, the innovation, there's definitely a tie there. one thing our scientists are working on is carbon capture and storage, which could prevent co2 from entering the atmosphere. we've just built a new plant to demonstrate how we can safely freeze out the co2 from natural gas. it looks like snow. it's one way that we're helping provide energy with fewer emissions. tdd# 1-800-345-2550

don't see any effort to crack down is on the afghan taliban based in pakistan, both in terms of the quetta shura down in baluchistan and as well as in terms of the haqqani network. >> lehrer: is it your reading that the united states has the power to get this done? get the pakistan government to do this and we just haven't exercise it had power or is something else at work? >> i think it's a very good question. i think that's where my interest in this review... this has been backward-looking in terms of what the problems are. to me it's not that these problems have been identified, now is the interesting part of looking forward, what are we going to do about these and the big thing is what are we going to do about pakistan? and i think it's a big question. can they be pressured into it? that's probably not terribly successful. can they be bought now? our strategy is to try to buy support but the history of u.s. aid to pakistan does not suggest that that will be successful, either. so i think it is a real bind in terms of how to proceed in terms of getting pakistan's commitment on the sanct

support of pakistan's military in rooting out taliban sanctuaries in north waziristan and around quettam afghanistan in the tribal areas. the remarks also undermine months of administration effort to downplay its original mistake of setting a july, 2011 dead line for beginning to withdraw u.s. forces. the u.s. and its allies went out of their way to extend the date when afghan forces will take full responsibility for security in their country but even full responsibility does not mean the afghans won't need some foreign military help. does your head spin? >> yes, it does. what they've told us is the beginning of the end of the war is july of next year and the end of the war is 2014. what they haven't told us is how they're going to do it and how it will work. and there is still this disconnect between obama and his white house and the military about where this is going and, you know, if you take that report that they've issued after studying this, you know, really for months they said, well, we've made progress but it's fragile and reversible. now, if you've got ratings and you're makin

you still have al qaeda and taliban senior leadership protected in quetta and karachi and in other parts of pakistan. what specifically do you plan to do to push the pakistani government? and if they don't go ahead with cracking down on this, what can the u.s. do, given that you say these games that we will have will remain fragile and reversible in less we saw the issue of the safe havens? >> well, first of all i would say that the pakistanis have indicated their willingness to move into other areas in addition to south waziristan and swat. but as i mentioned in my opening remarks and i secretary clinton refer to, it's hard to overstate the impact of the flooding in pakistan and the role of -- and the degree to which the military, military assets were drawn off the border to be able to deal with the flooding. they also have to have an enduring presence in the places that they have cleared. and so to make sure that the enemies they cleared out don't come back as well. so i think that likely many other things that we've dealt with with pakistan, things will move in the right direction. it

despite these expenditures, radical militant groups, such as the quetta shura taliban and the kani network have continued to leverage their freedom of movement to cicialtion mai killd disrupt our efforts and those of our nato allies. these insurgent activities are nearly textbook, something that the army field manual on counterinsurgency describes in detail as having occurred throughout history -- throughout the history of insurgent warfare. the issue of sanctuaries, thus, cannot be ignored during planning. effective coin operations work to eliminate all sanctuaries. with such military advice in mind, i must ask: how do we expect to defeat an insurgency that is being supported by elements of the pakistani military and intelligence service on the other side of the keiber pass? after nine years, why are we tolerating these safe havens? mulmullmullah omah, the leader e insurgents in pakistan, his followers regroup and rest in pakistan, only to cross the border and fight our troops once again. insurgent fighters have increased their attacks by 53% over the last quarter, and when both isaf and