we >> quewell, if he couldn't eena the questions on people's minds about the health care and the economy, maybe it will be smart if his campaign manager pulled him out of those debates because he was a disaster tonight. >> do you think it's likely? >> i think it's possible. >> john podesta obviously has an interest in the outcome of that question. so he's not exactly an objective observer. i said from the beginning, when it looked like trump would be the nominee it would be 50/50 as to whether he'd do the debates. i feel like we'll see the immediate response sometimes different than the way voters respond, but it's hard to believe that trump would want to leave this as his lasting impression with the voters. i think he's got to make up some ground even if just on the temperament and out of control. >> people might realize there's nothing mandatory signed to by anyone that there will be three of these and one vp. hillary clinton's comments to america's anxious allies tonight had no force of law but delivered where it was, in the context of that conversation, it had weight. >> yes. well, s