what we've done, we've used even wh quinoa pasta.reed cauliflower, and we're also adding veg bs. i hate to use deception as a tool when cooking for the kids. >> so the and call flower, how does it taste? >> this is the stuffing. usually lots of butter. sausage. and this is barley. i love so it's cherry and walnuts and barley. it's not as heavy. there's not a lot of butter in there. it's olive oil and fresh herbs. lots of acidity and fresh herbs. people want to change the way they cook at home and not rely on salt and fat. fresh herbs and acidity. now dessert. dessert is a challenging one. but here this is a sweet potato pie. it's really simple. all we've done is not put the crust on it. so the crust is -- it has all the cashes in it. it usually has butter in it. we replaced it with oats and some almonds. and we made a crumble out of it. so another really simple way. you don't have to change the recipe. most dessert recipes, my wife is really good at. this cut the sugar in half. that's a good start. >> go crustless. that's a good tip

. >> we've used quinoa pasta, it's a seed, it's a complete protein. and instead of adding cream and butter, we've pureed cauliflower, which looks like milk and mimics it visually and gives it creamy texture. we're adding vegetables and the kids don't know. >> the quinoa and the cauliflower, how does it taste? >> it is delicious. it's not just something i do, oh, because we're trying to change people's lives, we are. but it's also the food i'm eating at home and it makes a difference. >> what do we have here? >> this is our version of the holiday stuffing full of bread usually, usually lots of butter and animal fat or sausage. this is barley. >> really? >> i love using grains to replace rice or carbs or replace a risotto, it's cherries and walnuts and barley. and it's not as heavy. there's not a lot of butter. olive oil. a lot of acidity and fresh herbs, people want to change the way they cook at home and not rely on salts and fat, fresh herbs and acidity. we get to dessert and it's challenging. it has a lot of fat and has a lot of sugar. but this is a