. >> hsn and qvc. something we don't ask that often about. you have a control position at hsn. >> 38%. >> 38%. negative control as john would say. >> negative control as john would say. >> is there an opportunity there to put the two together? >> well, look, we have always thought there might be interest in that. the challenge has been historically that even though it has better growth -- because of the domestic hsn, qvc has traded at the multiple discount and bigger free cash flow discount. so our general view has been investing our own stock repurchasing the own stock is more attractive than buying hsn at a premium. even with synergies. you know, that's been our challenge. >> right. finally, sirius, which of course is another very large asset for liberty media. the last quarter was not particularly well responded to by investors. there seemed to be some concern in terms of the used cash market, the new car market, the overall growth in sar and the continued competition from the likes of your phone in the car. is that a concern for you? >> y