listen, qvc ships 320 million packages a year alone. this is a big problem.s is a really good solution. i've been working on something like this now for several years. we haven't quite come to a finalization. so, i will give you the million dollars as a loan, but i want a royalty, and i want you to tell me what royalty you'd be willing to give me. is your expectation that that -- that royalty is capped at a certain amount of sales? uh, i would do the royalty until i make my money back plus another $500. plus another $500,000? let me make sure i get that right. $1 million plus another $500,000 back in royalties, so a who-- total of $1.5 million plus the interest rate? 8% interest and 2.5% of the company in the end. listen, the deal -- you have learned, grasshopper, from the master. [ laughs ] i have! i sit next to kevin for many, many, many years. cuban: so, anyways... this is -- this is a venture-debt deal. but i'll tell you i-- it's a venture-debt deal. ...you u-- you understand why. yep. i can bring you the customers, but there are so many ifs here, this is