r. mr. mcafee: we have port $100 billion into education and we are near at the bottom. another hundred billion and we will be illiterate. please, god that is our second largest expense in this country. you ask veterans are they benefiting? no they are not. thank you. larry: mr. perry? mr. perry: i would say a that is a flawed question asked of mr. john. -- trump. , the declaration of independence does say governments exist with the consent of the governed and are supposed to protect life, liberty and property. think you are smart enough to be your own government. [applause] larry: this next question is to mr. peterson. should illegal immigration be stopped? what does open borders mean? mr. peterson: i believe a free market and labor is just as effective lifting people out of as aty is just as helpful free commodity. borders are drawn on a map by politicians. the nationstate things it only serves the needs of the individuals. i believe we as libertarians can offer to the american people a solution w

r. mr. mcafee: we have port $100 billion into education and we are near at the bottom. another hundred billion and we will be illiterate. please, god that is our second largest expense in this country. you ask veterans are they benefiting? no they are not. thank you. larry: mr. perry? mr. perry: i would say a that is a flawed question asked of mr. john. -- trump. , the declaration of independence does say governments exist with the consent of the governed and are supposed to protect life, liberty and property. think you are smart enough to be your own government. [applause] larry: this next question is to mr. peterson. should illegal immigration be stopped? what does open borders mean? mr. peterson: i believe a free market and labor is just as effective lifting people out of as aty is just as helpful free commodity. borders are drawn on a map by politicians. the nationstate things it only serves the needs of the individuals. i believe we as libertarians can offer to the american people a solution w

mcafee?r. when does life begin and at one point -- at what point should it be a crime when a woman has an abortion? mr. mcafee: i do not know when life begins. i do know what it means to be with a woman who is forced to face this choice. i know that early on, the fetus is indistinguishable on the body of the woman, connected by the same blood, said by the same nutrition -- fed by the same nutrition. it is a complex problem but until you are faced with the issue as a woman or a father, it is your choice. it is your choice. [applause] larry: mr. perry? mr. perry: the question of abortion is one that has been biased. i know that government should not be involved, money should not be stolen from anybody to pay for any abortion or any abortion alternative services. [applause] larry: mr. perry, is there a point in your opinion where pregnancy -- terminating a pregnancy should be illegal? mr. perry: people should be allowed to adopt an unborn child, should they want to do so. larry: governor johnson? mr. johnson: i do not think that people realize the law of the land, the law of the land says that women have