i'm ra ray suarez. the islamic state sprang from the full mutt from the syria civil war. shias, alawites, yazidis now convinced they have no future in a region where isil's self-appointed caliph is now in charge. how do the concessionnal lines match up with the territory lines in this struggle? >> so far isil has succeeded in making alliances with disgruntled sunni populations who felt oppressed by the baath government or shiite government in iraq. and convinced them that they could liberate them. that has not turned out very well for the people who made that deal, and i would be surprised if this is a long-term proposition. but in those rare cases where isil has managed to conquer some territory, which were inhabited by minorities, they've been, as your guest said, almost genocidal. they insist on forced conversion, or this is why they're kidnapping the girls, they impregnate them with the kids and bring them up to be fanatics. >> you were telling us about a long history of persecution, but people are not 1,000 years old. they're only however hold they are, 30, 40, 50 ye