solution has always been something you believed in. , i amher prime ministers thinking of or been -- rabinnd two states to live side-by-side. if that does not happen, people worry and you have secretary of state carry getting in trouble and having to sort of pull back something he has said using the word apartheid. what are your thoughts about that? >> i think the time for a single state having two nations is over. >> it is over. >> yes. [applause] one is -- once they were separated they became friends. justooking at it it is not an empty desire. two states,not have we shall have one conflict. should of them will ask, condemn our children to fight all their lives. so from our standpoint we want to be a jewish and democratic state. being jewishable and democratic. moses.st democrat was think about it. equal. all people are the image ofde in the lord. that was the first statement in my judgment of democracy. then nobody is superior or inferior. you have to respect everybody. and he fought for freedom. otherwise he would remain in egypt. do not think that the jewish , disciplinedmple people.

a few blocks where were i'm standing yasar arafat and rabine who fought the egyptian army in 1948 athe birth of the state of israel shook hands with president bill clinton and each other at the white house. it was september 1993, and things that had not seemed possible in a long time suddenly were thinkable - that israel would recognise a self-governing palestinian state on land israel took in the 1967 war. that palestinians who had for decades denied the existence of israel and fought to push the jewish state into the sea would recognise and live side by side with it. once again the news is full of death, killing and counterkilling, and that sunny moment at the white house that brought hope with sober recognition of how much work was to be done seems a very, very long time ago. >> reporter: people run for cover in tel aviv. violence between israel and hamas terrified israelis and palestinians. rockets fired from gaza with ranges longer than previously seen are reaching into israel. sirens wail, residents forced to take cover. hamas is volleying rockets into israel's territory at the

to look at them you're different artwork you've done a lot of work from rabin gentrification and progress banners around buildings to destroying a kitchen and gentrification pro does as a new yorker what effects have you seen gentrification do in your city and why is it an issue that speaks to you so much. when new york is a very unique place you know it's a birthplace of so much creativity and so many of the you know the arts are so concentrated here so when i see things like the rents sense two thousand and been increasing to seventy five percent in the last fourteen years you know you see a lot of creative people being pushed out because you know we're you know starving artists or however you want to put it and a lot of us are just surviving and not thriving necessarily financially so when you see you know places like five points that giant building that i wrapped. you see those sort of artistic meccas and institutions that have been around forever disappearing so that they can put up you know glass structures with you know luxury apartments you kind of have to question what's the moti

to work harder so let's take a look at some your different art work you've done a lot of work from rabin gentrification and progress banners around buildings and destroying a kitchen and gentrification protests as a new yorker what effects have you seen gentrification do in your city and why is it an issue that speaks to you so much. when new york is a very unique place you know it's a birthplace of so much creativity and so many of the you know the arts are so concentrated here so when i see things like the rents sense two thousand and been increasing to seventy five percent in the last fourteen years you know you see a lot of creative people being pushed out because you know we're you know starving artists or however you want to put it and a lot of us are just surviving and not thriving necessarily financially so when you see you know places like five points that giant building that i wrapped. you see those sort of like artistic meccas and institutions that have been around forever disappearing so that they can put up you know glass structures with you know luxury apartments you kind o

jim jordan will join us, and a few comments now on the president's continued contribution to rabin andbf situations in which you have seen this administration intervene in a meaningful way that has substantially further american interests and substantially improved the, you know, tranquillity of the global community . lou: substantially improve the tranquillity of the global community. that does not quite trickle off the tongue, does it? does nt ve aing it, it does have a ring to it, but not one of truce. the administration is engaged in staging a historical wave of emigrants -- illegal immigration as children from central america fled across our southern border. hamas has carried out a campaign of terror against israel. israeli defense forces had just launched ground attacks against hamas positions in gaza. a missile struck a malaysian airline passenger plane with 295 people aboard over the ukraine-russia border today. u.s. intelligence confirms the missile was russian-made. at least the white house has not reasserted the press secretary's averages and patently absurd claim that presi

it was overthrown and some of them shouted and sounding rabin. of them jumpedhappy. after what?gether, we have ds too. it's natural that we are able to overcome it(me we serve the couy together. i don't have theabout it. and then it was for the sake of the country. so i think we're very close. the major issue is not how do you feel but what do youo cñ do -->> rose: on the major , have you felt confident that every american president supported israel. >> by and large,3i met ten pres. it's very hard to be elected to be a president in the united states.c not a simple proposition -- how to be a president is not easy. so you need the -- but among that in america there were republicans and there were democrats. all of them as far as i'm concerned -- the firsthuú6 was i told you was kennedy. i was then a deputy minister of defense. it's not normal that the president would receive a deputy. but he asked to see me and we wentqï!i=udidn't use the elevat. i spoke with him and he looked to be different than in the pictures becauselthe pictures -e already with white hair. because he was suff

. >> at think rabin and number of situations in which you have seen this administration intervene inngful way that has substantially further american interests and substantially improved the, you know, tranquillity of the global community . lou: substantially improve the tranquillity of the global community. that does not quite trickle off the tongue, does it? does not have a ring to it, but not one of truth. the administration is engaged in sustaining the historical wave of immigration from central america as children fled across our border. hamas has carried out a campaign of terror against israel. attacks have been launched against fox business positions in gaza. a missile struck a malaysian airline passenger plane with 295 people aboard over the ukraine- russia border today. u.s. intelligence confirms the missile was russian-made. at least they have not asserted the claim that president obama is improving the tranquillity of the global community. why not, you may wonder? well, he is apparently otherwise engaged doing what he does whenever there is a global crisis, it seems, atten

here's a temperature should be elsewhere rabin later on today with the four upper 70's and the south bay and birthday. ball of the cloth or dancing in the incidence or hot spots to soilure ride. the digit seen were moving into your really lying. side-by-side split is setting up for the rest of the bridge the reason that the traffic results will tears because of the meter relays be slow. the drive time is currently 24 minutes the cemetery bridge still us will commute all the were close to the terms of the time or close to the typical it. we see conditions changing here. the other gapers so as a very swift commute with the delays its gulf war would traffic. >>: a deadly car crash and settles a driver's crashing into a tree faugh in the boulevard of the euclid drive. or to look at the curveball the the crashing to see that the car as it a little of teresa boulevard the south all the the driver slammed symmetry early this order. the police said that the minister did 40 years old and he was driving southbound on santa teresa boulevard just before 2:00 weeks landed to that tree and the sev

in 1994 he won the nobel peace prize along with yasser arafat and yik sat rabin. 2007 he became the presidented july 24th. this is his first television interview since leaving the israeli presidency. >> when you see the pictures of what's happening in gaza right now, the enormous number of civilians, children, elderly, women, who have been killed over the past -- this is now week four of this war, the criticism of israel is that it's reacted disproportionately. you say? >> well, i don't know in that case what is appropriate. imagine you see a child on your knees on their knees and somebody is shooting at the child and yourself. what is the proportion? to shoot back? they put before us an impossible question. we cannot escape it. we wish we could have left to do it. we have nothing against the people. we don't like to see anybody being killed. it's not our purpose. but if they put it in their homes with the children and there they plan the rockets and the different weapons they collected, what can we do? i would like -- >> you know the white house and the state department both have said israel

[applause] and also to rabin for your guidance pre-and during program, getting this conversation. you did a wonderful job. [applause] we have a small gift for you. it is the speaker t-shirt at the churchill club. please wear that in good health. video of this program should be available by tomorrow or the next day on our youtube channel, which is youtube.com/bookclub. you've been a wonderful group. thank you so much. hope to see you next week. goodnight. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> so i tell the story about my commas every aspect of whose identity is in one way or another a threat to israel. by gender is male. a religion is muzzled. my citizenship is american, but my nationality is a radiant trade my ethnicity is persian, cultures middle eastern. everything about sendoff all the warning signals for israel. and so the experience of an arabian american single man tried to get through ben-gurion airport in the 21st century is a reminder to everyone that despite the late globalization has brought us closer and has diminis

six ninety seven ever since so the so a government this was begun no this was robin robin robin so rabin wants to negotiate with arafat he wants to he wants to cut a peace deal this and he can't just go to his people and say hey let's have peace and i got to go to his people and say if we don't have peace with these guys those guys over there are going to kick our butts or size we have to strengthen our our home we have to strengthen our home front in order to face this threat from iran and those guys over there is iran and he's selling this to his own people knowing that it's not true exactly exactly but and the so there has been somewhere along the line somebody in israel has to figure it out that there's no rain in the clear weapons program what why have they not stopped selling this part why are they you know again netanyahu is why well first of all i think you know it's very complicated but to use to fast forward now to the last few years it's very clear that the intelligence community in iran in israel and the military leadership have been very much opposed to netanyahu is threat t

i'm not sure israelis did in the wake of rabin's murder. tribal is asian, personalization, this kind of anyway have ad in salutary or ameliorating effect on the situation, and what would it require from an external process to break a potentially as catholic tory cycle -- a potentially as: tory cycle now? >> i know my research is pretty negative on this. when people assume conflict is not on its way toward a resolution, they simply find it hard to empathize or question themselves or question the moral stance. the two things i think that actually works for both israelis and palestinians, having more reflection. one thing is what is happening in the region. people are terrified by anarchy. know how ugly it can get. it is ugly. we have witnessed the death of several people over the past couple of weeks, horrific, but when you compare it to what is happening in syria or iraq, people do not want that. you can see the backlash. we can see it in the polling about people rallying behind the state when they see anarchy. there is a mood that does not

internet sales tax and i am wondering if you can clarify your position on federal tax revenues as the rabinuestions about whether or not he would like to see taxes raised. >> thank you for asking that question. that has already been cleared up by several outside interests like the atlanta general constitution had and fact checked. all of these people refuted the fact that i ever said herman i want to tax. i said i want to put a fair tax and because it will level the playing field for the rest of the world from manufacturing and business interests which is one of the problems you have in washington when you only have a lot and people in the united states senate you have any business experience. the unintended consequences of our policies have decimated entire industries, footwear, apparel, textiles, electronics and even furniture. after get back to the bases of letting our manufacturers compete with other manufacturers around the world. >> it is your turn to ask a question. >> neither of you when you just had a chance to ask your opponent a question brought up an issue that i think is import