intifada of 2000 and 2005, that is, it was not you who missed the opportunity, by the way, yitzhak rabin in 95 gave his life because of these, actually oslav agreements, when he was killed by a jewish radical, and this was a huge tragedy for israel, so he was a wonderful political leader, a statesman, but the palestinians did not want to do... you, indeed, i believe so, i can say this because i studied it from the inside directly, in the arab world, many people, arabs who have a higher education, who have experience and so on, they said, these are not used opportunities, for the palestinians to create their own state, to create infrastructure and to coexist normally in the region, including with israel, and what did they miss this chance? in oslo there was a treaty on the establishment of a palestinian national... administration, and the wording palestinian autonomy spread around the world, but in reality it is not so, in fact, in fact, it was created. palestinian state under the israeli protectorate, that is, why can't it be called autonomy, well, any autonomy lives according to the pri

as i mentioned, the assassination prime minister rabin a couple of years into that set us back badly. other things that as well but that was really a time when it should've happened. if it happened then, i don't know where we would be but i'm confident we would be in a better place than we are. host: chris in boston, democratic caller. caller: i'd like to remind your guest that in the 1980's when hamas emerged, they were promoted and were a counterweight tofatah i the israelis. also the peace initiative proposed by king abdulla of separate dish of saudi arabia in 2002. that if the israelis were to return to the 1967 borders, then there would be peace between the arabs and the israelis. host: let's take those points. guest: i like them. i think that israel has made a lot of mistakes historically. it has a desire for enlarging its own territory. a lot of americans including the american security situation and our hearts are with israel and the palestinians, the innocent palestinians, this week and going forward. it doesn't defend israel's reluctance to be serious about a peace process o

a user of ukrainian ishaq rabin says: ishaq rabin, the fifth prime minister of israel , was originally from ukraine, but with the cooperation of israel, he committed crimes and massacres in palestine, and another is the german-born head of the mossad. barnia , the current head of mossad, is the son of a german couple. the other addresses the romanian minister of defense of the zionist regime. ask benigand whether your crime as an immigrant in palestine was high or the holocaust was a big lie. it is time for the criminal immigrants to return to their homes. a few for this face and that another million occupiers living in quds. if the mothers did not say anything about their homeland, one day they will probably have to look at their family tree. one day they may need to find a way back. we are on the brink of collapse. fateme rahnama, news anchor of sed and radio. we, the mercenary nomads, condemn the crimes of the chauvinist regime. we are saddened by the people. palestine has always supported and will support the kurds of the palestinian people . we, the nomadic children , support the

to stop the peace process and jack rabin was not the nicest person you will meet the world. but he saw that we needed real politique to solve this problem and to stop murdering people because they were still murdering people then, but never mind the pro palestinian israel. left, even the moderate voices in israel are under attack, it's censorship, it's the narrative, as you know, member of the jewish himself, but very decent man, was suspended from the israeli parliament for 45 days, because

a user of ukrainian ishaq rabin says: ishaq rabin, the fifth prime minister of israel , was originally from ukraine, but he committed crimes and massacres in palestine with the cooperation of israel. from the german- born head of the mossad. barnia, the current head of mossad , is the son of a german couple. the other addresses the romanian minister of defense of the zionist regime. ask benigand about your crime as an immigrant in palestine. it was too much or the big holocaust lie, it's time for the criminal immigrants to go to their own homes return for this face and those millions of other occupiers living in jerusalem. if the mothers did not say anything about their homeland , one day they will probably have to look at their family tree. one day they may need to find a way back. we are on the brink of collapse. fatemeh mahla, radio news guide. we're talking to michael singh , the former director of middle east affairs at the national security council . i think worry there is a severe and widespread because this was a real failure in predicting the biggest attack on israel in decade

a user of ukrainian ishaq rabin says: ishaq rabin , the fifth prime minister of israel , was originallykraine, but he committed crimes and massacres in palestine with the cooperation of israel. and another from the german head of the mossad. barnia, the head of the mossad , is the child of a german couple. the other addresses the romanian minister of defense of the zionist regime. ask benigand , was your crime as an immigrant in palestine a lot or the big holocaust lie, it's time for the criminal immigrants to go back to their own homes. for this face and those millions of other occupiers living in quds, if their mothers did not say anything about their homeland, one day they will probably have to look at their genealogy. a day that may be necessary. may they find a way back. we are on the brink of collapse. fateme rahnama, news anchor of sed and radio. at the beginning of last year , the forces of justice attacked. in early july, during the attack on the jenin camp, the occupying regime shelled the house of the palestinian artist muhammad and turned it into a ruin . but this artist suc

to stop the peace process, and jijak rabin was not the nicest person you will meet in the world, buthe... so that we needed real politique to solve this problem and to stop murdering people, because they were still murdering people then, but never mind the pro palestinian israeli left, even the moderate voices in israel are under attack, it's censorship, it's the narrative, as you know, offer kassif, member of the kneset and jewish himself, but very decent man, was suspended from the israeli parliament for 45 days, because he condemned the bombing of gaza, yeah, and they are not going to pay him for two months, i think or something, so this suppression in what biden describes as democratic state, is reflected on the policies towards their own there to disagree too, well that doesn't really surprise me there, but us interests have become greatly threatened in the region of west asia due to their exquisite by. towards the israeli occupation, mean the the resistance factions in iraq for example, it did not hesitate to launch air strikes or to launch strikes with drones at the asad base

they cost israeli prime minister yitzhak rabin his life. he was killed at a rally in tel aviv.palestinian national authority was created. but in 2000 the second intifada began and ended. only with the death of arafat. after his death, israel completely handed over palestinian authority control of jerricho and four other west bank cities, and then withdrew troops of jewish settlers from the gaza strip. jewish settlements are settlements where israeli citizens settle, but they are located in territories occupied after 67, which were supposed to go to the palestinian state. they continue to be built on the west bank. around jerusalem, but the un and a number of countries consider them occupied territories. the interests of the major powers have always intersected here, but now regional forces are beginning to behave independently, external players themselves, it seems, have not yet fully understood what they want, and how willing they are to get involved in risky conflicts. oliver stopf from austria, the drawing is called cunning iran, a man who looks like an aliyah plays a piano

and they fear the future without prime minister rabin.in the west bank and gaza. israel was still ultimately in control. violent attacks on both sides have continued ever since and several attempts to broker a peace deal have failed. in recent days there have been violent clashes in the occupied west bank, palestinians angry over israeli bombing of gaza, and the deaths of civilians. israel says this is not collective punishment. they are trying to target the violent group that killed israelis. no, no, no. the target are the people that are safe at home, kids, women, old people. no, they target everybody. this is my country, i belong to this land, this is our land and we are not leaving it. i hope they will be alive. so many tears being shed on both sides of this war. and let's get a final word from our international editorjeremy bowen who is in southern israel. diplomatic efforts to get the border crossing in egypt, on the border with gaza, open, they failed. failure again to try to get some kind of humanitarian corridor through gaza. the

the chief of staff of the israeli. army general dijak rabin called on foren minister aba evan to find a diplomatic solution to the issue because israel was not ready for war as it should be on may the 25th 1967, eben went to the united states to know the us's opinion up their no problem. i asked by my government to explore what these governments intend to do in order to reopen this international waterway to a situation to do sir. well, i've come here really to find out what the united states intends to do. lind b johnson, then president of. the united states told even that he did not want israel to start a war. during this meeting, johnson read part of the secret document to even. the document stated that israel will not be alone unless it decides to go alone. the soviet union said the same words to egypt and urged them not to start a war. in practice, however, egypt did start the war by closing the sath of tyran to israel. the canders in the egyptian warroom warned that if they wanted to wait for the attack, the first attack would be crilling for egypt, and the chief of staff comment

therefore, the arab countries were pushing the palestinians towards solutions. period of the mid-80s, rabin was announcing the ironfist policy on the west bank and the ghaza strip. i saw myself how the israeli occupation was insulting and humiliating the palestinian youth. the zionist enemy was escalating, they were spreading in all the lanes, streets and squares of palestine. however, the movement was convinced that its ideas would never have the historical. the resistance work of the members of the islamic jihad movement started when they were able to implement some operations of self-defense against the israeli occupation and its settlers. these settlers killed and humiliated the palestinians. that was the beginning of new revolution that the occupation did not expect on the palestinian land. i clearly remember how the israeli occupation army killed my grandfather with cold blood in 1967 for. no reason, i used to watch how my mother felt, and few years later, my maternal uncle was imprisoned, he spent many years in prison through which he was tortured in many ways. i also remember when i

crime 700 to 3050 palestinians are killed this time in sabra and shatila camps in lebanon , when isaac rabin, the minister of war, tim pererz , another one of them, 14 years later, kills hundreds of lebanese refugees in qana camp in lebanon, or the american comrades shanri kissinger. minister of foreign affairs when america, during his ministry, about 3 million vietnamese from the occupied territories of the ruling party of myanmar, the head of the ruling party of myanmar was responsible for the killing of thousands of rohingya muslims and the displacement of tens of thousands of their other people . the last one happened to this woman. 2023. a person with a history of anti -security measures and supporter of separatist elements, mohammad javad reza soltani, newscaster, quds brigades held a military parade on the third anniversary of the establishment of the palestinian islamic jihad movement, 60 soldiers from different units, each named after one from the cities of battalions they were named quds and were present in this parade. this parade is for the fixed principles of this movement and a

terrorist organization, in others it was not considered a terrorist organization, in the end ishak rabin hands with yitzhak rabin, the prime minister, the prime minister of israel, but these two people simply understood, in fact, that they needed to put an end to what was happening, so they went for it, so they went for it, but in the end, in the end it turned out, it turned out that this is what we have today. so it is, so yes, hezbollah too, as they once were for someone, they are probably terrorists outwardly resembled terrorists, and today they are terrorists for many, but in fact the idea today is part of the political establishment, they have ministerial portfolios, they form part of society, that is , you see how complicated everything really is, so in order to make our work as easy as possible, i i propose to call those who are listed as such on our fsb lists terrorists, and leave the rest for the kitchen, there for the living room for... tea, can we please continue, why is this a tragedy, here is the person who was indignant, and the journalist’s remarks, says: i’m not going to

360 palestinians were martyred in the early morning attack of april 9, 1948, and the other is isaac rabin , one of the perpetrators of the massacre of 700 to 300 palestinians in sabrawa and shatila camps in southern lebanon. nicknamed the executioner of qana refugee camp in lebanon , zionist operation by his order with 1500 turns the flight over this area led to the martyrdom of more than 20 palestinian refugees. apart from the zionists , the nobel went to their american comrades, such as henry kissinger, the former us secretary of state, when more than 3 million vietnamese were killed during his ministry. just search for this name online . aung san suu kyi, the former ruler of myanmar. he was the cause of the killing of thousands of rohingya muslims and the displacement of tens of thousands of them. mahatma ghani was also nominated five times. every time his record was checked , he was rejected. he was the leader of the indian revolution against british colonialism. mohammad javad reza soltani khabarari radio they are preparing for a meeting of students, each of whom is from a region of

oslo 97, rabin shook hands with arafat in an extent to have peace in country. we tried.ers of modern israel turned that desert into a beautiful country shook hand the on that lawn in front of clinton. we ended up pulling out of gaza and disbanding two of our most important elite counterterrorist units. one was shim son, my sister unit and other one called yamas. units that dress up as arabs. they pull out -- they do the maintenance and so the -- larry: i locked that in. american wednesday department first quarters are saying i will say this, use surgical airstrikes combined with targeted raids by special-ops troops or roll into gaza with tanks and infantry. >> let me talk to that. let me talk to that. i see where you're going, they're saying there is no clear strategy from the idf. >> i disagree. i disagree. larry: right. >> i do take exception to it. we'll park our cars in the shame garage, larry. here is number one in 2005 we chased hamas into gaza and you know, shame on, shame on you for fooling us. it ain't going to happen twice. we're in no rush to run into gaza to

unite the palestinian political formations, but there was a particular stage, i think under yitsak rabin, where there was at least some type of the israelis were willing to. my own view is that yes the president has come out very clearly and it's the right thing to do, it's the moral thing to do, the ball is now in israel's court, we highly doubt though that at this moment in time given the behavior of netanyahu and their own pressures inside of israel and the need for them to continue this war, that they will at this point agree to an engagement, however as the pressure mounts, you may well find a situation to their knees and then they will agree, and that is when south africa becomes an important player in this in this in this scheme of things. south african foreign minister naledi pandor says colonial occupiers are using financial muscle to provide grants in aid to african countries and secure the depoliticized support of african countries for the oppressive israeli regime. is that countries that are oppressers that continue to be. occupiers are using financial muscle to provide grant

they treat a criminal like like shimon pererz, isaac rabin is given the nobel prize and they give military aid. as the political leader of the islamic jihad movement, what do you expect from international institutions to support palestine? do they support palestine at all? we believe that the western and american support of this regime in framework

the ukrainian says that isaac rabin, the fifth prime minister of israel, was originally from ukraine, but with the cooperation of israel, he committed crimes and massacres in palestine, and the other is the german-born head of the mossad. david baria, the current head of mossad , is the son of a german couple. the other is the romanian minister of defense of the regime addresses the zionist. ask benigand , was your crime as an immigrant in palestine a lot or the big holocaust lie, it's time for the criminal immigrants to go back to their own homes. for this face and those millions of other occupiers living in quds, if the mothers did not say anything about their homeland , they will probably have to look at their family tree one day. one day they may need to find a way back. we are on the brink of collapse. fatemeh mahla, radio news guide. to support the oppressed people of palestine. they should get their right, israel will be destroyed once and for all i congratulate the victory to the leader of the american resistance , this was the scene that we have been waiting for a long time .

and two israelis received the nobel peace prize, these are yasser arafat, shimon peres and yitzhak rabinemist, since then the americans, who had previously been appalled by the collapse of the soviet union, and then... and with this local success they began to actively work with their elbows on everyone, in all middle eastern formats, there was a format such as a quartet, which included russia, the usa, the european union, the united nations organizations, but the americans did not let their mouths open, they pushed through their ideas and as soon as success was achieved, they threw out the rest, trying to monopolize these processes. but then a lot went wrong, they realized that the monopoly would not bring political dividends and began to move back a little, but they destroyed all existing formats, all formats that were aimed at implementing that very resolution of the united nations general assembly on the creation of a neighborhood two states, jewish and arab, and now they are actually betting on escalation, politicians are such predators who will benefit from what happened, netanyahu

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the prime minister of the zionist regime, yitzhak rabin, who has hundreds of horrific crimes and terrorist operations against women and children and the palestinian nation, was awarded the nobel peace prize in 1999. former us secretary of state henry kissinger, who was a staunch supporter of the policies of the zionist regime, played an irreplaceable role in the massacre of the people of vietnam and the planning and implementation of the coup in chile, which led to the deaths of tens of thousands of people. there was a denial and he received this award. jimmy carter, the former president of the united states, who ordered the massacre of the people of iran during the islamic revolution, to mohammad rezaza shah pahlavi, also won the nobel peace prize in 2022. yasser arafat fought against the zionist regime until then. kurds were presented as terrorists, but after signing a compromise agreement and sacrificing the rights of the palestinian people , he received the nobel peace prize in 1994. the president of egypt, anwar sadad , was introduced as a warmonger until he fought alongside gamal abd

the two possibilities of a coup and assassination in the regime mean, what is the model of isaac rabin, and they should go and calculate these events within themselves. 3. these are the threats that they have. i am investigating from the point of view of the israelis, and from the point of view of the americans, a detailed discussion of the three creation of a new front in israel, whether in the east or in the north, and in different areas, the signs of which we have seen today. the establishment of a resistance front, well, guerilla warfare, well, that's it there will be high casualties. the casualties will be higher. 5. the pressure of the international community and public opinion that you have . you can see these events at the world level. i'm talking to you, the latest news i had is that 12-12 to 15% of the citizens of the israeli regime are leaving and 500,000 people on the ground , 500,000 people in the air are a million displaced people from african countries, sudan and ethiopia , in the north of the regime, as well. i will serve you that 8 the increase in investment risk and t

the oxymorone left zin, left zints are also losers in this in this shared that they had before, and rabin himself once said that under labor we had more settlements and under liquid and both the right and the left are losers because they both come from the same mentality and even the demonstrations that are against the judicial so-called reform in israel were called off today, not because they are afraid for their wellbeing, the leaders of those demonstration said we're calling it off because we want to show solidarity with the settlements around gaza and with the soldiers, with the israeli soldiers, with the military, so they are... not they don't care about palestinians, i don't care about human rights, but i think it's in in a way good thing that this is happening under the current government, because i can imagine if it's happening under another government like a hood barak or somebody else, the right wing would be screaming about the weakness of the government and about how has set the stage for this by being weak and whatever. we have the most extreme government by any testimony, so

descendants of those who murder their own prime minister yijak robin to stop the peace process and gijak rabin was not the nicest person you will meet in the world but he saw that we needed real politique to solve this problem and to stop murdering people because they were still murdering people then, but never mind the pro palestinian israeli. the left, even the moderate voices in israel are under attack, it's censorship, it's the narrative, as you know, offer kasif, member of the kneset and jewish himself, but very decent man, was suspended from the israeli parliament for 45 days, because he condemned the bombing of gaza, yeah, and they are not going to pay him for two months, i think or something, so this suppression in what biden describes as a... democratic state is reflected on the policies towards their own they are to disagree too. well that doesn't really surprise me there, but us interests have become greatly threatened in the region of west asia due to their uh exquisite bias towards the israeli occupation. mean the the resistance factions in iraq for example, it did not hesitate to

process, my good old friend, and the old fool, shimon peres , did not... understand this and neither rabinis, and none of them, they all thought that they would buy the palestinians, this impossible, so they bought hamas. today the question is not about a palestinian state as a solution to the problem, but a solution to the problem of the palestinians as people, as a people, i have seen too many children in gaza and i know how they look, in order to say that the state solves their problems, this is all speculation, since look at the share of the united nations budget for departments dealing with palestinians, from 10 to 15, in the nineties there were 20,000 minor officials, ethnic palestinians dealing with the palestinians, today there are more 30,000, i spoke about this problem with the un deputy secretary general, they can’t do anything. individual first-class refugees, principle, all generations are refugees, all others, first generation refugees, the rest settle down as they want, about 200 million refugees passed through it, through the commissariat for refugees, refugees replace each

israeli prime minister yitzhak rabin, who has hundreds of horrific crimes and terrorist operations againsten and children and the palestinian nation , won the nobel peace prize in 1999. henringer, the former us foreign minister, who is a staunch supporter of the regime's policies he was a zionist and he played an undeniable role in the massacre of the people of vietnam and the planning and implementation of the coup in chile which led to the death of tens of thousands of people . this award was also won by jimmy carter , the former president of the united states, who ordered the massacre of the people of iran during the islamic revolution informed mohammad rezaza shah pahlavi that he won the nobel peace prize in 2002. yasser arafat was known as a terrorist until he fought against the zionist regime, but after signing a compromise agreement and sacrificing the rights of the palestinian people in the prize he received the nobel peace prize. anwar sadad chairman the president of egypt was known as a warmonger until he fought alongside gamal abdel nasser against the zionist regime, but after t

this, where and moreover, there was also such a famous figure, the deceased prime minister, ithak rabinn fact, he was killed by a jew, of the right wing, why, because he was the first to say then, let's withdraw troops from the gaza strip and was killed, now the national minister... his party is very right-wing centrist, which generally believes that all arabs need to be cleansed out of israel, has six revenges, moreover, up to shortly before the assassination of isaac arabin, they made their way to his car, tore him off this car, as they called it, and he was running, which means this current parliamentarian was shouting, we got to his car, we’ll get to him, i’m saying that, unfortunately, common sense, including israelis, now damaged, and as for netanya, it was no coincidence that i brought up this terrorist attack and king david, the hotel, it was committed, this terrorist attack was committed under the leadership of begin, in 2006 a memorial plaque was opened at this place, in honor of this terrorist attack, i understand when people fight for their independence and - glorifies some

off the attack on october 7, the people there were organized by a twenty-five-year-old girl, inbal rabinan, she is a coordinator for security, this position in israel means something like a sheriff, a person who is in charge of defense. villages before the arrival of the idf, here it was possible, but literally a couple of kilometers further everything was different, there was kibbutz nahal-os, from which the american women who had been released the day before were kidnapped. fifty-nine-year-old yagudit raanaan and her seventeen-year-old daughter natalie have been back with relatives for almost 24 hours. they came to israel from chicago to reunite with vatev aza’s family, which is further from gaza. but while we were looking for a permanent home, we temporarily lived on our own border. 2 days before the abduction, on the mother’s birthday, immediately after the transfer at the border , the women were examined by red cross doctors. we have been waiting for this moment for a very long time, 2 weeks, all these 2 weeks i have not slept, but i can sleep today, i talked to my daughter, she has

shimon peres, isak rabin, and yasser arafat, whom everyone considered a terrorist, hugged, shook handside the same enormous financial and military assistance that the palestine organization, especially brezhnev, provided , arafat came to us and so on, and somehow we, yes , we had our own position, we always said, our foreign minister spoke about it, that let's vladimir, putin met with those, with others, let's, let's, let's , but such activity in this plan was not, as for that side, first of all, the united states, because israel is very close to them, in all respects, they paid attention to today's reaction, they considered, well, god bless him, you never know what is written there, we we now live not according to laws and not according to international law, but according to rules, and the rule is that whoever is stronger is smarter , so we got, we got this terrible misfortune, i want to emphasize again, we must immediately stop the war and sit down, and with anyone to sit down - for negotiations, because people are dying there, let's proceed from this, you also mentioned the arab wor

wish luck to our fighters, and i was surprised at our fighters, is he about avdeevka, is he about rabin kupinsk, is he he means these guys of ours on the front lines, no, he means kind of guys, in the tzahal, you see, and that’s how it explained to us in one day why all these years they were so driven away from us, as soon as a fire broke out in israel, everything went somewhere, that ’s all, we are for peace, no war , all pacifism, all principles to one, somewhere, the principles with which they covered themselves, these so-called values, it turned out that the values ​​​​were simply covering up the natural ... hatred, disgust for russia, these so-called values, which do not exist , where are they, how is this person wishing good luck to us to the soldiers, he is for peace, and the soldiers, they are fighting, they are for war, we are other soldiers, they are sick of us all, such a sudden surprise that they, and in general all of the russians, those who are there now running around on russian tv is nauseating, well, it’s not surprising, this is the normal state of a normal person, when

october 7 to fight off the attack, the people there were organized by a twenty-five-year-old girl, inbal rabin, she is a security coordinator, this is a position in israel , it means something like a sheriff, a person who is responsible for the defense of the villages until the arrival of the idf, here it was possible, and literally in pairs kilometers further, everything was otherwise, there is kibbutz nahal-os, from it with relatives, they came to israel from chicago to reunite with their family, it is further from gaza, but while they were looking for a permanent home, they temporarily lived on the very border, 2 days before the abduction they celebrated the day the birth of the mother, immediately after the transfer at the border, the women were examined by red cross doctors. we have been waiting for this moment for a very long time. i haven’t slept in weeks , but i can sleep today, i talked to my daughter, she has a cheerful voice, she looks good, she is very happy to return home, i hope to see them next week, hamas tells the whole world that it has returned women taken hostage for humani

has broken down due to provocations and even political assassinations, israeli prime minister ishak rabin was killed precisely because of peace agreements with the palestinians, a suspended... conflict, that’s what its researchers called the situation. israeli historian tom sigev defines the principle of the western approach. this is a very, very complex conflict that probably has no solution, so the question has always been how to manage it. and the dispute between us and the palestinians is really about conflict management, not resolution. the united states is precisely what governed without seeking find a solution. and when it was beneficial for them, they added fuel to the fire of the conflict, instilling in israeli politicians the conviction only that they were right and strong. no attention was paid to international agreements. in 2017, for example, they announced the recognition of jerusalem, and not tel aviv, the capital of israel, which caused a wave of protest among palestinians, whose opinions and interests were simply ignored. this is not today’s problem, but somehow we always

so he took moshe dayan into the house, but he left rabin in the car. ambassador herzog is the grandson of israel's former chief rabbi yitzhak halevy. herzog, the son of israel's sixth president, haim, and older brother of israel's current president isaac herzog, his great uncle, albert, perhaps the country's most famous, was israel's foreign and ambassador to the united nations and to the u.s.. his summation of this movement, of this moment 75 years ago was profoundly. quite simply, he said, harry truman changed the world. he also noted that history us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all alternatives. sometimes, however people surprise us. and today we honor exemplars of courage. who knew right from wrong and stood for justice. these individuals, including members of my family and hertzog family, are a source of inspiration and hope for our shared future. it is a privilege to have ambassador herzog reflections and insights on the 75th anniversary of israel's founding. he was appointed israel's ambassador, the united states i

there were catastrophic events after the assassination of prime minister itzhak rabin. hamas engaged in a number of suicide bombings that arguably shaped the trajectory of oslo, israeli politics. hamas' you'll rise to prominence happened in the second. violence as a way of dealing with israel. no one could compete with hamas, terror, violence, what it does well. the main secular movement started to see hamas and their terror tactics. the paradigm was validated. long story short, by 2006, the palestinian authority called for election. hamas runs in the election. they are smart, realizing the palestinian public was still scarred, did not want terror platform. they never announced terror. rather they use the vulnerability, corruption, poor governance, etc., and they won the elections. in the years that ensued there was tension between palestinians and hamas. in 2007, hamas took over, and has been the governing authority. my colleagues talked about that period, very interesting period. hamas used it for a number of objectives. part of the objectives, terror buildup. there w