rachael gordon is quoted in 2018, the city never wants to remove a tree unless it is absolutely necessary for public safety. one has to ask whether d.p.w. always holds to this sense when people protest removals that are proposed. some of the removals turn out to be ruled unnecessary. perhaps the department needs to include the word absolutely in their proposals. last but least, keeping these trees will keep the birds in them. >> from the demonstration gardens, we started from a similar perspective, and i wanted to read our recommendations that we started with before we entered into such detailed work with the library and the bureau of urban forestry. we wanted to remove no healthy trees due to the tree emergency -- >> you have 30 seconds. >> prune and improve drainage to keep -- this is not possible. i can't present our plan in -- >> why don't you tell us what your proposal is. you have time in rebuttal. >> there's no rebuttal. but i understand the library wants to cede their time. >> yes, we would do that if it's acceptable. >> since we're talking about this for 30 seconds, maybe we can