and expand it, so we reached out to rachal and said are you down for ,unches and a lot of e-mails and so this came out of an attempt to expand the conversation that we were having or to expand on the region holing we had been put into -- pigeon-holing, we had been put -- this was the second iteration of that live event, there was no comfort -- conscious effort to avoid i want toonality, but accept with openness that it is part of the conversation. we have been called upon and chosen to some degree to explore race as a primary variable as an identity. we wanted to talk about the podcast? >> we are trying to do a podcast to see if this can be a test thing, do we fight all the time? >> we will actually bark at each other the entire time. >> the shirt man with the hat. question, the first the reason i put that question together is thinking that it seems like we talked about obama and the election and what to that is we came together and elected but it is a process that we took to elect president obama andar as little to nations it seemed like the whole community got together and as soon a

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