rachel carlson, welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> let's start specifically with whats offer the debt-free degrees to employees. how do you do that >> weupskill their workforce. we do it because it helps the worker obviously we've got 88 million americans who need upskilling and reskilling today it also helps the company because it increases their ability to attract and retain great employees and also gives them a way to advance those employees from what are today's jobs into what future work jobs they're going to need five to ten years from now. >> what are some examples of companies you are working with and let's quantify what this benefit has meant for these companies workforces. >> companies like waste management, chipotle, walmart, disney, discover financial think of the frontline workforce of america, the middle american worker we've seen really tremendous outcomes for the companies so you've got a company like chipotle which has found when one of their employees enrolls in our upskilling programs, and this can be anything from college prep to a certificate in pe

i would rather watch a debate moderated by tucker carlson and rachel maddow or laura ingraham and vanhack ash john harwood whose opening questions in the 2016 opening debate was this -- >> mr. trump, you've done very well in this campaign by promising to build a wall and make another country pay for it, sent 11 million people out of the country, $10 trillion cutting without decreasing the deficit and make americans better off because your greatness would replace the stupidity and incompetence of others. >> that's right. [laughter] >> let's be honest, is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign? >> ben: what a question. today the rnc finally announced they would be breaking with the commissioner, finally. after repeated missteps in partisan actions that underscored last cycle it is clear that the commission on presidential debates is no longer providing the fair and impartial forum for presidential debates, which the law requires and the american people deserve. last year i hardly endorsed the idea that joe rogan should endorse the debate and why not? he's the best intervie

rachel: jesse watters had tucker carlson on and growing list of lies exposed by the media.ying, which they have been, then what is left? i mean i think they're actually past the point where they say oh, man, we got this wrong. that is why you see this desperate emotional attachment to the stories that already been revealed to be untrue. pete: when you look at the list reading it off preparing this morning any one of these could have been consequential how people viewed the outcome, all the big stories. look at number seven. tony bobulinski. that is a huge story. rachel: thank you. pete: hunter biden laptop never covered anywhere. lab leaks. new jim crow because you want to show an i.d. all of these are of such -- ukraine impeachment over a phone call? all ignored. rachel: there was a lot of things that hunter biden was doing to, using his father's influence but tony bobulinski i'm glad you brought that up. when have you sign him on any other network besides our network? will: you haven't. rachel: you never saw that it goes back to what you guys were talking about earlier, t

carlson tomorrow night? >> i feel fine because i am going to say what i want to say just the way i would go on rachel maddow or some on your show and say what i'm going to say. it doesn't really make a difference, the format that i appear in. i'm not going to say what i want to say. >> just to round this out because you've got a stiller track record over the years and in the introduction you had written a book about pain killer, called pain killer in which you were one of, if not the foremost reporter exposing the -- the opioid use by pharmaceutical company that led to, you know, all the horrible addictions and -- and deaths and suicides we've had as a result of that. there's been a lot out there since then, building on your work. there's the hbo documentary that's been on recently, crime of the century. how do you feel about the -- the credit, the degree of credit you've gotten for your groundbreaking work on the opioid crisis? >> i feel pretty good about it to be quite frank. breaking one of the most significant public health stories of our time to being a character in recent book called empire pain and,