my dog is named after rachel carson so that next on my rossellini or edge or something. and am going to be talk about her and my lectures. my students will hear about her a lot. but i think that you chose a bit more about that sometimes, about who she took on, because that was what surprised he was the way she identified tremendously not with hypocrisy and emerging conservation movement. so i wanted to be toast a little bit about that, but my real question was issued still alive and fighting today, which part of the environmental movement might she be taking on and why? i've got one that i think she could help me with. >> i will start with the easier question. i feel him not to be identified as rosalie edge, for one thing. so i don't, i want say that i know what she would do, but judging from and a lot of study of her material and her original which are and what happened in her life, i do a sense of vision was. she would like any of us, diana. so we were not born high enough on the food chain perhaps to be her friend. but the activists who saved nature from the conservat