rachel cleetus is policy director in the climate and energy program at the union of concerned scientistsel, the section on noaa in project 2025 is written by thomas gilman. he was in the commerce department in the trump administration. he was an executive at chrysler before that. the section says that noaa has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry, and as such is harmful to future u.s. prosperity and should be broken up and downsized. what do you say to that? >> is an extremely damaging attack on an agency that is providing science that helps keep people safe, helps keep critical infrastructure and our economy safe. as you pointed out, noaa's weather service is providing information that helps communities get prepared ahead of things like extreme heat waves, major storms and hurricanes. when we have these flooding events, when we have wildfires, this agency is crucial in providing the kind of information that helps first responders get out ahead, helps communities prepare and saves lives, frankly. so attacking this agency, attacking the science that it's doi