now, we are hoping to speak to the lieutenant chancellor, rachel reefs. you, we don't quite have her yet. but will bring her to you just as soon as we can, to try and find out exactly what labor's position is. richie sunak was touching on that slightly in the interview. i believe we may have rachel reefs. thank you very much for being with us. we just heard from richie sunak who was saying -- i hope you can hear me rachel reeves. >> hello there. >> there you are. excellent. we just heard from richie sunak. the chancellor. effectively saying that things are going to get difficult and that he is not going to be able to help fully mitigate the cost of living crisis. what do you make of what he had to say? >> well, wednesday isn't an stork moment for the chancellor. for him to show whether he really understands the challenges that people are facing at the moment. because as a constituency mp, i've got months or saying to me, i'm struggling to put food on the table. i'm now skipping meals, so that i can feed my children properly. i've got pensioners seem to me