whistleblowers today well earlier i spoke with someone who knows a lot about this subject just one radek just one is the director of national security and human rights for the government accountability project he's also the author of this book traitor the whistleblower and the american taliban as a former whistleblower she shared her story with us take a listen. basically in the justice department ethics supervisor in the case of the so-called american taliban john walker lindh he was a first person captured in afghanistan after nine eleven and he was an american so he was seen as the worst of the bad when in fact he really hadn't done that much he ended up pleading guilty to relatively minor charges but i advise not to interrogate him without a lawyer and parent that equate not to torture him and when i realized that that advice was not only because for guarded but disappeared from the file in the office that was not turned over to the court i blew the whistle on that and for that i experienced a lot of our tally ation including being put under a criminal investigation and referred to t

effort to silence whistleblowers today for some answers someone who knows a lot about this subject just radek has blown the whistle before and now fights for whistleblower rights has learned as the director of the national security and human rights for the government accountability project she's also the author of the book traitor they whistle blower and the american taliban and she joins us now live in our studio nice to have you here so i understand that you yourself you were a whistleblower in the past can you tell us a little bit about your personal experience sure basically i have been department ethics supervisor in the case of the so-called american taliban john walker lindh he was a first person captured in afghanistan after nine eleven and he was an american and so he was seen as the worst of the bad when in fact he really hadn't done that much he ended up pleading guilty to two relatively minor charges but i have advised not to interrogate him without a lawyer and parent that equate not to torture him and when i realized that that advice was not only because this appeared from the p

officer to the defense lawyers of a detainee guantanamo bay and just think about it this way justin radek she's a guest on our show and she's also from the government accountability project and she put it this way instead of an investigation into the government's withholding of exculpatory information from good mood detainees lawyers the government investigated how the lawyers obtained the information and instead of investigating the seventy names and twenty five photos of the detainees alleged torturers the government investigated how the prisoners found out so that is a perfect picture of how our government chooses to apply justice the state's justice for those who tortured know their identities are not being revealed and yet no justice for those who were tortured secrets kept out of legal documents when it suits the government's interest and an indictment for those who try to make sure that the defense might see those documents and kiriakou is by the way the sixth person under the obama administration to be indicted under the espionage act so let all this just be a reminder to you of w