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radicalization. it's not clearly understood and some people who have studied the issue don't like the term civility. that includes faisa patel, brennan center for justice, also a contributor for al jazeera. i asked faisa why she is so troubled by the term radicalization. >> i don't think radical or radicalization is helpful to understand the term. when you hear radicalization it suggests there's a five step program that an individual goes there that makes them become a terrorist. but when you look at the empirical evidence that is not the case. the government itself indicates that there's no one route to becoming a terrorist, not one way that everyone follows but complex throts to terrorism. i just don't see that using radicalization simplifies it in a way but doesn't really explain anything. the second reason i have trouble with radicalization is when you look at some of the radicalization models that were put forward in the mid 2000s by the nypd and the fbi, they suggest there is a conveyor belt fo
radicalization. it's not clearly understood and some people who have studied the issue don't like the term civility. that includes faisa patel, brennan center for justice, also a contributor for al jazeera. i asked faisa why she is so troubled by the term radicalization. >> i don't think radical or radicalization is helpful to understand the term. when you hear radicalization it suggests there's a five step program that an individual goes there that makes them become a terrorist. but when...
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and now they've become radicalized, totally radicalized. how about the woman?an, then saudi arabia. she brings -- she comes in on an engagement deal and she radicalized the guy. probably a guy who couldn't get women, i don't know what his problem was. probably the first woman he's ever -- i don't know what was going on. but he became radicalized quickly. notice how easy it is? he becomes radicalized and then they go on a spree. folks, those days are over. those days are over. we have to be tough. we have to be smart. we have to be vigilant. yes, we have to look at mosques and we have to respect mosques. but yes, we have to look at mosques. we have no choice. we have to see what's happening. because something is happening in there. man, there's anger. there's anger. we have to know about it. we can't be these people that are sitting back like in the world trade center like so many different things. we can't be people that knew what was going on two weeks ago in california, probably for months they knew what was going on. they didn't want to tell anybody. we can'
and now they've become radicalized, totally radicalized. how about the woman?an, then saudi arabia. she brings -- she comes in on an engagement deal and she radicalized the guy. probably a guy who couldn't get women, i don't know what his problem was. probably the first woman he's ever -- i don't know what was going on. but he became radicalized quickly. notice how easy it is? he becomes radicalized and then they go on a spree. folks, those days are over. those days are over. we have to be...
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i don't know if he's radical or whatever. his father said he was a radical devout muslim.yed, but the father characterized it as radical. i said last night on megyn's show, sending cair out in a situation like this is sending nambla out for someone accused of pedophilia. cair is a horrible organization, the left supports them and bolsters a group like cair with political correctness where you have the neighbor afraid of reporting what he saw at the house because he was afraid of being called an islamo phobe. i can't believe this is the country we're living in! >> i can't believe the comments that fall from the lips of barack obama our president. this is a president who said he would degrade, destroy the islamic state and say it's not an existential threat to the country as if it's a sophomore tutorial at the university of chicago, zuhdi. >> and the republic of iran or saudi arabia, they are the incubators for isis don't matter. it's bizarre how the reason naming it matters, you want to know who your allies are and foes are. the reason americans are confused who are the mod
i don't know if he's radical or whatever. his father said he was a radical devout muslim.yed, but the father characterized it as radical. i said last night on megyn's show, sending cair out in a situation like this is sending nambla out for someone accused of pedophilia. cair is a horrible organization, the left supports them and bolsters a group like cair with political correctness where you have the neighbor afraid of reporting what he saw at the house because he was afraid of being called an...
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>> what we normally would see is people radicalized here.n bombers talking about their chechen roots and chechen civil war there, these are kids radicalized in boston. not chechnya. we'll know more about the specific case of course and if there was radicalization where it took place. but statistically i would say something more about here, something could have happened in pakistan, something could have happened in saudi arabia. >> right. >> but not necessarily the case. >> just talking about the likelihood. doctor, thank you so much, appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> coming up, minutes after the murderers sprayed san bernardino with bullets, paramedics rushes right in to try to save whomever they could. so what was that like treati ii victims on the streets merely seconds after a slaughter? our own dr. sanjay gupta talks to one of the first responders. that story next. ♪ snowmen with buttons, snowflakes with icing ♪ ♪ candy corn feathers, sure look enticing ♪ ♪ rice krispies treats, the fun doesn't stop - ♪ ♪ how many ways can you snap, crack
>> what we normally would see is people radicalized here.n bombers talking about their chechen roots and chechen civil war there, these are kids radicalized in boston. not chechnya. we'll know more about the specific case of course and if there was radicalization where it took place. but statistically i would say something more about here, something could have happened in pakistan, something could have happened in saudi arabia. >> right. >> but not necessarily the case....
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used to be a longer period of radicalization.saw in a couple of the paris attackers that that was the case. the concern is that it makes it so much harder to detect when somebody is about to do something. especially somebody with a clean background like these two people. >> peter, does it have the fingerprints if in fact it is radical islamic jihad, if you will, does it have the fingerprints of isis, al qaeda, aqap, some other terrorist group? what would be the indication in your mind? >> since 9/11 we have seen no attacks in this country by people associated with a formal terrorist organization. so i doubt very much, maybe that it was directed by isis or any other group. it might be inspired. that's perfectly plausible. these people probably like school shooters look at other school shootings to learn how to do things? these people sdtudied the "charlie hebdo" attacks based on the gear and tactics they took. does that mean they're part of a formal terrorist organization? not in this country. >> but what about that, bob baer, doe
used to be a longer period of radicalization.saw in a couple of the paris attackers that that was the case. the concern is that it makes it so much harder to detect when somebody is about to do something. especially somebody with a clean background like these two people. >> peter, does it have the fingerprints if in fact it is radical islamic jihad, if you will, does it have the fingerprints of isis, al qaeda, aqap, some other terrorist group? what would be the indication in your mind?...
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why do they go out and do this, were they radicalized, were they not radicalized.ll of this points to radicalization. >> and james, do you think he should have been on the united states' radar? evan is pointing out that they have too many people like this on the radar. are they going to look back and say, this was a mistake? or not? >> well, i'm still in touch with my colleagues in the fbi and they feel to some degree their hands are tied. they are doing the best they can. they realize there's all sorts of political and jurisdictional issues that have to be addressed here but there's a lot that could be done in a case such as this. most likely should have been, whether it's a mistake or not, who knows. i can say this, there's probably out there right now, the fbi is watching. they may do nothing and unfortunately there are people they know nothing about who may strike next. >> thank you all very much. we're going to talk much more about farook's wife, the other shooter in a moment. and next, the shooter planned a very quick strike and fast getaway. they had at home
why do they go out and do this, were they radicalized, were they not radicalized.ll of this points to radicalization. >> and james, do you think he should have been on the united states' radar? evan is pointing out that they have too many people like this on the radar. are they going to look back and say, this was a mistake? or not? >> well, i'm still in touch with my colleagues in the fbi and they feel to some degree their hands are tied. they are doing the best they can. they...
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isis is, radical islamic terrorism is, those who want to murder us are.as justice joseph story so rightly noted the second amendment is the palladium of our liberty. these rights enable an armed citizenry to defend themselves against evil actors whether they be criminals or as we are now seeing the threat increase homegrown or migrant terrorists in our own cities. rather than stripping ordinary citizens of their constitutional liberty we should have instead a clear strategy to orderly defeat isis. and that brings me to my second in addition to protecting americans here at home the strategy to defeat the enemy begins by calling it by its name, radical islamic terrorism. on sunday the president's address to the nation he made an interesting point. he said quote for seven years i confronted this evolving threat each morning and my intelligence briefing. and yet now he says he understands this evolving threat each day he has chosen not to deal with reality. he has chosen not to confront the actual enemy. he has chosen not to call the attack in fort hood or li
isis is, radical islamic terrorism is, those who want to murder us are.as justice joseph story so rightly noted the second amendment is the palladium of our liberty. these rights enable an armed citizenry to defend themselves against evil actors whether they be criminals or as we are now seeing the threat increase homegrown or migrant terrorists in our own cities. rather than stripping ordinary citizens of their constitutional liberty we should have instead a clear strategy to orderly defeat...
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, self-radicalized. sent by isis. we don't actually know that yet. they were a couple for whatever reason did what they did as isis keeps morphing and say for the first time in many it rations of this kind of extremists terrorism that the isis folks are having such success online because people are, you know, lapping this stuff up and getting radicalized to the point of violence before law enforcement can step in -- >> they are not on the radar. >> and you talk about this knife attack. i think what is important is more and more muslims are coming out and an observer in london and twitter caught on camera. you ain't no muslim, you're not a muslim guy, so quit saying you are. >> i'll play that shortly. >> and in paris the same thing. >> when you hear donald trump saying ban all muslims from coming to the united states until we figure out what the heck is going on or whatever his verbiage is, for someone who fought overseas, iraq, does it make the job harder for u.s. troops who are aligned with muslim, you
, self-radicalized. sent by isis. we don't actually know that yet. they were a couple for whatever reason did what they did as isis keeps morphing and say for the first time in many it rations of this kind of extremists terrorism that the isis folks are having such success online because people are, you know, lapping this stuff up and getting radicalized to the point of violence before law enforcement can step in -- >> they are not on the radar. >> and you talk about this knife...
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we talk about the radical itization of muslims, and the republican party has been self radicalizing for years. it has been taken over by the extremists. we're not yet beholden to my donald trumps or ben carsons. openly callerring for killing the terrorists, which is a war crime. and it doesn't mean that islamic extremism isn't a dangerous problem and needs to be confronted on many levels, but the unfortunate reality is we ended up in this position because we failed to talk to each other and understand other, and pursued policies without considering the consequences. it means responsibilities for the muslim communities, and at the political level. unfortunately, in president obama's speech, we didn't really hear any sense of what he wants to do about this, beyond telling us what he's already doing, which i think for most people clearly is not working. >> what's the most effective way forward and the one that lines up with america's most cherished ideals? stay with us. it's "inside story". >> water pressure hitting faults and making earthquakes. >> there were a lot of people that were tel
we talk about the radical itization of muslims, and the republican party has been self radicalizing for years. it has been taken over by the extremists. we're not yet beholden to my donald trumps or ben carsons. openly callerring for killing the terrorists, which is a war crime. and it doesn't mean that islamic extremism isn't a dangerous problem and needs to be confronted on many levels, but the unfortunate reality is we ended up in this position because we failed to talk to each other and...
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i'm sure he knew that he was fairly radical in his views if not radicalized? i. >> right.and knew that syed was a very devout muslim. i know they had discussions about israel in particular and about whether islam was a religion of peace or not. but my husband wasn't the type to want to like instigate a fight. he would have just had discussions about it. but i know that they completely disagreed on israel. >> do you believe that maybe your husband was the person targeted by these two people? >> yes, i do. because of my husband being a messianic jew and because of the discussions, i think the shooter was intending on getting my husband. i also think some of the other people that were killed were also intended targets because of their religious views. and because of discussions that they had had with the shooter as well. >> and your husband dressed as a messianic jew. he wore a yarmulke, for example, did he have any other identifying clothing? >> he didn't wear a yarmulke, but he wore the tassels on the belt loops. >> okay. got you. >> and he also wore, yes, we also wore the
i'm sure he knew that he was fairly radical in his views if not radicalized? i. >> right.and knew that syed was a very devout muslim. i know they had discussions about israel in particular and about whether islam was a religion of peace or not. but my husband wasn't the type to want to like instigate a fight. he would have just had discussions about it. but i know that they completely disagreed on israel. >> do you believe that maybe your husband was the person targeted by these two...
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was she radicalized before she even came into this country? she and sayyed didn't really know each other. they met on the internet. they weren't high school sweethearts in illinois. the there's a report she was connected to a radical islamic mosque and cleric in pakistan. so is it possible -- of course she came up clean. that's the whole point, that she was sent in here on purpose to potentially meet and marry an american citizen, get that visa, come here with a green card and potentially commit terrorism. >> i think we've got to be honest about our visa granting system, even despite improvements based on security concerns since 9/11. it's still a very flawed vehicle. i mean, out there where interviews take place at and embassiy ies around the world you have very, very junior foreign service officers doing the interviews. rightly or wrongly and i think wrongly consular affairs is not considered one of the fast tracks inside the state department. the young foreign service oovs don't like doing it. they don't like that assignment. so they're not
was she radicalized before she even came into this country? she and sayyed didn't really know each other. they met on the internet. they weren't high school sweethearts in illinois. the there's a report she was connected to a radical islamic mosque and cleric in pakistan. so is it possible -- of course she came up clean. that's the whole point, that she was sent in here on purpose to potentially meet and marry an american citizen, get that visa, come here with a green card and potentially...
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did she radicalize him, or was it the other way around?e still do not know, but i will say this. as the investigation has progressed, we have learned and believe that both subjects were radicalized and have been for quite some time. >> reporter: how and where was the 29-year-old mother of a newborn radicalized? malik came from a family of wealthy landowners in pakistan. she later moved to assault and battery raid ya with her immediate family. cnn has learned that malik returned to pakistan to attend this school in the city of multan. she studied to be a pharmacist and received a degree in 2012 according to school officials. malik covered herself wearing a face veil, a common custom for women in the region. one of her professors described her as a good student. >> she always remain busy in study. and i don't think so, she was more religious or like that. >> reporter: but cnn has learned tashfeen malik later attended this institution, a chain of women-only religious schools in pakistan which according to an islamic scholar we spoke to teache
did she radicalize him, or was it the other way around?e still do not know, but i will say this. as the investigation has progressed, we have learned and believe that both subjects were radicalized and have been for quite some time. >> reporter: how and where was the 29-year-old mother of a newborn radicalized? malik came from a family of wealthy landowners in pakistan. she later moved to assault and battery raid ya with her immediate family. cnn has learned that malik returned to...
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did your mosque radicalize syed? >> never. >> reporter: that will be the question a lot of people will ask. >> there is nothing radical in islam. nothing radical at all happen here. >> reporter: hours after the shooting, the mosque became a target for anti-muslim hatred. >> look at the harm that came out of it, that today we are fearing for our lives. we are fearing for the muslim community. >> reporter: standing out in front of the couple's home, it's still being searched by law enforcement. just a few months ago, farook visited that mosque we were in today. >> we want to hear from patrick who shared a cubicle with him and sitting at the same bang wet table where he disappeared. a trip to the bathroom may have saved a life because the horror unfolding on the other side of the door. >> somebody asked, where is syed? i didn't realize he wasn't there at the moment. i left to use the rest room, hear explosions. i look back at the mirror and see i'm bloodied on my face. we secured the rest room so nobody could enter. i l
did your mosque radicalize syed? >> never. >> reporter: that will be the question a lot of people will ask. >> there is nothing radical in islam. nothing radical at all happen here. >> reporter: hours after the shooting, the mosque became a target for anti-muslim hatred. >> look at the harm that came out of it, that today we are fearing for our lives. we are fearing for the muslim community. >> reporter: standing out in front of the couple's home, it's still...
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this is a radical sunni group.es on the ground. >> but here's the reality check. here's the conundrum, bob, right, the sunnis don't want to take on this fight, do they? >> no. they're more worried about iran. and i agree with rubio. it's very rare i do, but he's absolutely totally right on this. we need the arabs to fight this battle for us. we need sunnis. we need to find an assault #alternative to the islamic state -- >> how do you convince them, bob? if you're sitting around the president as his national security team, how do you convince them we need them to fight this fight? >> we have to convince them that iran is not an existential threat to them. we have to really sit down and we have to sit down with the russians. and frankly we have to re-divide the borders in the middle east so the sunnis have their own state divided between iraq and syria. i just don't see another way. but if we don't deal with the symptoms of terrorism, which is the shia/sunni divide in the sphere of iran and the fear of their collapse
this is a radical sunni group.es on the ground. >> but here's the reality check. here's the conundrum, bob, right, the sunnis don't want to take on this fight, do they? >> no. they're more worried about iran. and i agree with rubio. it's very rare i do, but he's absolutely totally right on this. we need the arabs to fight this battle for us. we need sunnis. we need to find an assault #alternative to the islamic state -- >> how do you convince them, bob? if you're sitting...
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jihadist radicalized here in america.e know that the chattanooga murder of marine recruiters was carried but by a radical jihadist here in america. the obama administration response to murder of those marine recruiters was for them to take off their uniforms. my reaction would be don't take off your uniforms, put on your guns, you're marines, this is america, we're not going to live in fear in the united states of america. but there's a broader point here. every one of those attacks, terrorist attacks on american soil here since barack obama was president have been carried out by people that have been radicalized to engaging a warped view of jihad. we do not have to tolerate that type of speech or action here in america. you know i'm -- [ applause ] -- i'm a great believer in our constitution particularly the first amendment what's happening at some of our universities is crazy. there's a rule of law in this country. the first amendment does not allow you to shout fire in a crowded theater. you cannot call on americans to
jihadist radicalized here in america.e know that the chattanooga murder of marine recruiters was carried but by a radical jihadist here in america. the obama administration response to murder of those marine recruiters was for them to take off their uniforms. my reaction would be don't take off your uniforms, put on your guns, you're marines, this is america, we're not going to live in fear in the united states of america. but there's a broader point here. every one of those attacks, terrorist...
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thought and radical action. sometimes it can take months or years or tens of years before someone who feels radical sentiment act upon it. there's a lot of terrorists who are not radical, and so the work we've seen, the interviews, the hundreds of interviews conducted by psychologists have shown that. so we have to be careful not to conflate religiousness with extremism. >> doctor, i know you wanted to make a point on what we've been hearing so often today about they were radicalized. >> thank you, megyn. i would like us to jettison this phrase. being radicalized makes it sound as if something is being done to these poor people. we can't talk about nazis being naziified. they are choosing the life of jihad. >> certainly when you picture that woman there at the shooting range, doing target practice so she could kill the 26-year-old that her husband worked with, and the 40-year-old man who tried to save the life of that young woman and so on. it doesn't seem like a passive action. thank you both so much for your e
thought and radical action. sometimes it can take months or years or tens of years before someone who feels radical sentiment act upon it. there's a lot of terrorists who are not radical, and so the work we've seen, the interviews, the hundreds of interviews conducted by psychologists have shown that. so we have to be careful not to conflate religiousness with extremism. >> doctor, i know you wanted to make a point on what we've been hearing so often today about they were radicalized....
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radicalizati radicalization.we do know that malik posted on facebook the allegiance to isis that you were speaking of. so, isn't the case where, perhaps, in this couple, they were so conditioned to fooling or maybe that was a primary focus, fooling everyone around them until that moment of pledging that allegiance. >> well, we are talking two different things here. the bottom line is, americans that need to look for things and see something and say something, it's the sense of violence. are they going to act out? yes. that's going to happen the last few days and weeks. us in the muslim community, we had a summit. we put together a declaration that are the ideas of dividing lines between reformers and those that believe in the islamic state. there's a drift of the sense of allegiance to the islamic state. muslims that are adherent to that are part of the problem. the belief in violent jihad. the inequality of men and women. principles that run against what we are used to in western society are part of the radicali
radicalizati radicalization.we do know that malik posted on facebook the allegiance to isis that you were speaking of. so, isn't the case where, perhaps, in this couple, they were so conditioned to fooling or maybe that was a primary focus, fooling everyone around them until that moment of pledging that allegiance. >> well, we are talking two different things here. the bottom line is, americans that need to look for things and see something and say something, it's the sense of violence....
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wife team seemingly living the american dream, but just beneath the surface, he apparently was radicalized, communicating with jihadist sympathizers inside the u.s. and overseas. >> tonight, a vicious rampage authorities say could have been even worse. a massive cache of weapons found, remote-controlled bombs about to explode a co-worker disappeared, suddenly returning to massacre them. >> the question so many are request asking, how do we stop home grown terror, overseas, new fears about those radicalized flying under the radar and already here. "nightly news" begins right now. >>> good evening. the attackers in yesterday's massacre met their end in this neighborhood and that gun battle with police. what was revealed today seems to make it much more likely that attack was an act of terrorism. in great and stunning detail, police describe a picture of a heavily armed group of attackers, two of them backed up by an arsenal of pipe bombs and thousands of rounds of ammo, fully capable of launching a follow-on attack. yet authorities, without more evidence, are still pointedly refusing to labe
wife team seemingly living the american dream, but just beneath the surface, he apparently was radicalized, communicating with jihadist sympathizers inside the u.s. and overseas. >> tonight, a vicious rampage authorities say could have been even worse. a massive cache of weapons found, remote-controlled bombs about to explode a co-worker disappeared, suddenly returning to massacre them. >> the question so many are request asking, how do we stop home grown terror, overseas, new fears...
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i'm sure he knew that he was fairly radical in his views if not radicalized? >>.ew that syed was a very devout muslim. i know they had discussions about israel in particular and about whether islam was a religion of peace or not. but my husband wasn't the type to want to like instigate a fight. he would have just had discussions about it. but i know that they completely disagreed on israel. >> do you believe that maybe your husband was the person targeted by these two people? >> yes, . >> i also think other people that were killed were intended targets because of their religious views and discussions they have had as well. >> and your husband dressed as a messianic jew. he wore the tassles on the belt loop and wore, yes, the tie clip with a star of david on it. it was obvious he was of some jewish faith. we're messianic jew. >> there was a note from a woman saying she needed to tell you he played a vital role in my survival. i laid on the floor next to your husband when he had been injured and his last words to me were to get under the table. i wanted you to know
i'm sure he knew that he was fairly radical in his views if not radicalized? >>.ew that syed was a very devout muslim. i know they had discussions about israel in particular and about whether islam was a religion of peace or not. but my husband wasn't the type to want to like instigate a fight. he would have just had discussions about it. but i know that they completely disagreed on israel. >> do you believe that maybe your husband was the person targeted by these two people?...
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islam, let alone saying radical islam. deirdre: what did you make? even president supporters saying why even make that speech? there was very little meat, little change. >> we're a very divide country right now in terms of gun violence prevention and gun reform. we need to find a place to come together. >> gun f -- violence is at a 30-year low. a 30-year low. deirdre: your point about evolution, and evolution of law, i want to ask you both, ford, a campaign statement, from donald trump. saying, all muslims should be barred from entering the united states until -- i am quoting campaign statement -- the terrorist problem is under control. ford, what is your take? >> i think that soundsly a highly misguided solution that the wring well with republican grassroots, donald trump understands something that president obama does not, that is the fire in this nation with respect to the radical islam terror. deirdre: is the idea that as ford just said, donald trump at this moment, even if this is extreme is showing leadership that ma
islam, let alone saying radical islam. deirdre: what did you make? even president supporters saying why even make that speech? there was very little meat, little change. >> we're a very divide country right now in terms of gun violence prevention and gun reform. we need to find a place to come together. >> gun f -- violence is at a 30-year low. a 30-year low. deirdre: your point about evolution, and evolution of law, i want to ask you both, ford, a campaign statement, from donald...
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>> that's to say they were radicalized by isis but means they were radical before that. tells me is what i have been telling you and everyone else all along, that hundreds and hundreds of thousands of muslims are radicalized. >> around the world. >> around the world and in the united states of america, as well. and the big question for us is and again, i don't like the word radical or radicalized. these are people who have become for pious and tend to observe islam literally and take the koran literally and observe, they try to follow in the example of the prophey muhammad literally. that's what we call radical in extreme. that, the people who have that mentality and that mind set are not a minority and not a fringe minority. >> and they don't necessarily need a group like isis, i mean, that might sort of give them focus and might give them a name to claim allegiance to but i mean, as you said, this was happening before isis had a caliphate. >> exactly. i think these people were already -- they already believed what they executed and i think the big problem is because th
>> that's to say they were radicalized by isis but means they were radical before that. tells me is what i have been telling you and everyone else all along, that hundreds and hundreds of thousands of muslims are radicalized. >> around the world. >> around the world and in the united states of america, as well. and the big question for us is and again, i don't like the word radical or radicalized. these are people who have become for pious and tend to observe islam literally...
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it is not adequate to say they were radicalized by isis. it means they were radical before that.ells me is what i've been telling you and everyone else all along, that hundreds and hundreds of thousands of muslims are radicalized. >> around the world. >> around the world and in the united states of america as well. the big question for us is -- and again, i don't like the word radicalize. it's about people who have become more pius and tend to observe islam critically. they try to fall in the example of the prophet mohammad literally. that's what we've come to call radical and extreme. the people who have that mentality and that mindset are not a minority and they're not a fringe minority. >> and they don't necessarily need a group like isis. that might sort of give them focus, it might give them a name to claim allegiance to, but, i mean, as you said, this was happening before isis had a caliphate. >> exactly. i think these people already believed what they executed. and i think the big problem is because the number of people who believe in this within muslim communities and fam
it is not adequate to say they were radicalized by isis. it means they were radical before that.ells me is what i've been telling you and everyone else all along, that hundreds and hundreds of thousands of muslims are radicalized. >> around the world. >> around the world and in the united states of america as well. the big question for us is -- and again, i don't like the word radicalize. it's about people who have become more pius and tend to observe islam critically. they try to...
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he was radicalized. now we are hearing more and more why about why they radicalized before they even knew each other. authorities do believe that the dating website that they supposedly met on was very likely a cover. this investigation not only expanding here locally, megyn, but also around the globe. specifically in pakistan. looking very closely at her family there, looking very closely at the communications. they are even going through a lot of the electronic changes in potentially their bank account and if that has anything to do, anything suspicious. as you can tell, a lot of information coming out tonight and the big headline for us is people here locally looking at him and he inspected their food and also the fact that the whole idea they met on a dating website may be another potential cover and the family may not be telling the total truth here. megyn? >> there is much more to the story. adam, thank you. morton storm, cia double agent who infiltrated al qaeda. now a terrorism consultant for the
he was radicalized. now we are hearing more and more why about why they radicalized before they even knew each other. authorities do believe that the dating website that they supposedly met on was very likely a cover. this investigation not only expanding here locally, megyn, but also around the globe. specifically in pakistan. looking very closely at her family there, looking very closely at the communications. they are even going through a lot of the electronic changes in potentially their...
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self radicalization. the directed attacks, you can can a large number, you have funding and more sophistication but with the lone get so the numbers can large so they may be more isolated attacks but you have ay if copycat effect, this can be a very phenomenon that's scary. do inreid, what we always this country is look to capitol hill or the white house and say can we fix here. what was the automatic response? times hasmany president obama called for stronger gun control legislation in response to one of these events? saw much of the same this time. president obama made a statement from the oval office, which is rare in these instances. but there was a different tone to a lot of gun control think, and what a lot of them, what the undertone that sort of ran through a lot of the gun control advocates is the realization of the political reality. connecticut,in after gabby giffords was shot, reporters were executed on live television -- what's different about that vote change the way a takes place on capitol
self radicalization. the directed attacks, you can can a large number, you have funding and more sophistication but with the lone get so the numbers can large so they may be more isolated attacks but you have ay if copycat effect, this can be a very phenomenon that's scary. do inreid, what we always this country is look to capitol hill or the white house and say can we fix here. what was the automatic response? times hasmany president obama called for stronger gun control legislation in...
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. >> did your mosque radicalize syed? >> never. >> that will be the question a lot of people will ask. >> there is nothing radical in islam. nothing radical at all happen here. >> reporter: hours after the shooting, the mosque became a target for anti-muslim hatred. >> look at the harm that came out of it, that today we are fearing for our lives. we are fearing for the muslim community. >> reporter: standing couple's home, it's still being searched by law enforcement. just a few months ago, farook visited that mosque we were in today. he brought his wife with him for the first time. she was dressed in full traditional muslim dress that just shows a woman's eyes. she didn't say a word, but the men we spoke with today said nothing seemed out of the ordinary with the couple. turned out that was the last time they saw them. lester? >> stephanie gosk, thank you. >>> we want you to hear more from survivor patrick bacari we heard from briefly in miguel's ago. he shared a cubicle with syed farook and were sitting at the same banq
. >> did your mosque radicalize syed? >> never. >> that will be the question a lot of people will ask. >> there is nothing radical in islam. nothing radical at all happen here. >> reporter: hours after the shooting, the mosque became a target for anti-muslim hatred. >> look at the harm that came out of it, that today we are fearing for our lives. we are fearing for the muslim community. >> reporter: standing couple's home, it's still being searched by...
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these militants are local radicals. there hasn't been any incident of radicalization. national groups in this region, there are quite a few radical elements. specifically where we are reporting from. however, this is leading to the connection of the terrorist organization. >> sophia saifi in pakistan. travel together vil traveling to the village where the woman was born. >>> and jimmy carter is low key when the news is good. he revealed his prayers were answered. we get more from cnn's nick valencia. >> reporter: the former u.s. president made the stunning announcement at the start of sunday school church service in the town of plains, georgia. people in attendance erupted into applause by the 91-year-old's announcement. carter announced he was diagnosed with cancer. doctors said the cankcer was found in his brain. that included four spots. president carter started to go through radiation treatment as well as a drug. he released that information to the media and said the most recent mri scan did not reveal signs of the cancer spots or new ones. i will continue to recei
these militants are local radicals. there hasn't been any incident of radicalization. national groups in this region, there are quite a few radical elements. specifically where we are reporting from. however, this is leading to the connection of the terrorist organization. >> sophia saifi in pakistan. travel together vil traveling to the village where the woman was born. >>> and jimmy carter is low key when the news is good. he revealed his prayers were answered. we get more from...
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second, defeat them around the world by dismantling the global network of terror that supplies radical jihadists with money, arms, propaganda and fighters. and third, defeat them here at home by foiling plots, disrupting radicalization and hardening our defenses. now these three lines of effort reinforce one another. so we need to pursue them all at once using every pillar of american power. it will require skillful diplomacy to continue secretary kerry's efforts to encourage political reconciliation in iraq and political transition in syria, enabling the sunnis and kurdish fighters to take on isis on both sides of the border and get our arab and turkish partners to step up and do their part. it will require u.s. and allied power by strikes by planes and drones with proper safeguards. it will require special operations units to advise and train local forces and conduct key counterterrorism missions. what it will not require is tens of thousands of american combat troops. that is not the right action for us to take in this situation. so there is a lot to do. and today, i want to focus o
second, defeat them around the world by dismantling the global network of terror that supplies radical jihadists with money, arms, propaganda and fighters. and third, defeat them here at home by foiling plots, disrupting radicalization and hardening our defenses. now these three lines of effort reinforce one another. so we need to pursue them all at once using every pillar of american power. it will require skillful diplomacy to continue secretary kerry's efforts to encourage political...
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radical road.hen the san bernardino attackers embraced the ideology of terrorists and details about their facebook post pledging their allegiance to isis. the money trail. who might have helped finance the most deadly terror attacks. they are on the hunt for clues in california and overseas right now. hunt and kill mission. u.s. special op rerations force are getting ready to go after top isis terrorists and kill them. are other nations going to put their troops on the lines? we want to welcome viewers from around the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in the "situation room." >>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> breaking tonight, the fbi zeroing in on a critical question about the san bernardino terror attacks. did the killers have help planning and carrying out their massacre? investigators are focusing in on the finances of the married shooters looking for unusual deposits. there is evidence tashfeen malik pledged allegiance to isis on facebook for her husband
radical road.hen the san bernardino attackers embraced the ideology of terrorists and details about their facebook post pledging their allegiance to isis. the money trail. who might have helped finance the most deadly terror attacks. they are on the hunt for clues in california and overseas right now. hunt and kill mission. u.s. special op rerations force are getting ready to go after top isis terrorists and kill them. are other nations going to put their troops on the lines? we want to welcome...
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he was a radical, a radical , aric, a university student person who was not a good guy, but he was noteader and not the leader of the islamic state. we need to be precise about the details about that. host: bringing it back to the conversation about propaganda and online. you talk about tactics here. you mentioned trolling individual engagement, one-on-one, not really effective or a good use of u.s. resources? why not try to engage the individual accounts one-on-one? not a bad idea. the problem is you just don't have the numbers. just talking twitter alone, an average of 40 to 50,000 pro isis accounts. at cdc -- at cscc, there were three. it had six twitter handles. isis and ice's supporters had 40 or 50,000. of which, maybe 3000 -- i'm not should have engaged, but there is something very important and that is how they radicalized. occurs ondicalization a one-to-one basis. me talking to you, that is something that may be explored and maybe government cannot do, but government can do with a private sector. you need someone who will basically have those long conversations with people who
he was a radical, a radical , aric, a university student person who was not a good guy, but he was noteader and not the leader of the islamic state. we need to be precise about the details about that. host: bringing it back to the conversation about propaganda and online. you talk about tactics here. you mentioned trolling individual engagement, one-on-one, not really effective or a good use of u.s. resources? why not try to engage the individual accounts one-on-one? not a bad idea. the problem...
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radical islam. for terling glick writes "the jerusalem post" and beautiful lady and she pointed out the problem with former president bush's position, that we are not at war with islam and then this administration is taking and running it with to extremes. they failed to acknowledge that there is pluralism within islam, saying that if it's bad, it could not possibly be part of islam, is ridiculous. and what that does to moderate muslims, who don't want radical islamists governing them and cutting their hands off, horse whipping or stoning them to death, they would like to live in peace without worryying about a tyrannical leader, we do them a disservice by not pointing out that radical islam is an element of islam and it is a fact and therefore moderates are left to say nothing, because if they say this is an element of islam we have to stand up against, then they come up against the wrong-headed positions of the obama administration. we can help moderate muslims stand up and a few have been doing f
radical islam. for terling glick writes "the jerusalem post" and beautiful lady and she pointed out the problem with former president bush's position, that we are not at war with islam and then this administration is taking and running it with to extremes. they failed to acknowledge that there is pluralism within islam, saying that if it's bad, it could not possibly be part of islam, is ridiculous. and what that does to moderate muslims, who don't want radical islamists governing them...
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he amplified with his public remarks yesterday how long but to shooters had been radicalize before the events as well as communications about why we did not discover communications in advance as well as discussion with department of homeland security. and with that visa process in their holes that needed to be plugged to prevent people from using the marriage or fiance visa program to enter with the purpose to carry out an attack. we have additional insights in the investigation is in its early stages and we have a lot to learn how these two came into contact with each other or separately become radicalized. the investigation is literally all over the globe and there is a great deal more to be explored with communications and devices. dash shooters did use certain operational security measures to avoid detection to help and p the investigation after the attack but we're working through these challenges. >> day you know, if they had any help or if they chose this time to attack? >> the director has emphasized we're not aware of any other components like co-conspirators. that is the firs
he amplified with his public remarks yesterday how long but to shooters had been radicalize before the events as well as communications about why we did not discover communications in advance as well as discussion with department of homeland security. and with that visa process in their holes that needed to be plugged to prevent people from using the marriage or fiance visa program to enter with the purpose to carry out an attack. we have additional insights in the investigation is in its early...
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there's no such thing as social radic r radicali radicalism. it's amazing. cannot say someone did not have a job or global warming created terrorism. >> yeah, i don't know what caused this guy to do what he did. poverty closes a lot of bad things and people do stupid stuff or stuff that's antisocial when they're and stupid stuff. >> yeah, but they steal and rob but you that to eat or whatever. >> i understand. i am saying that there's no correlation on evidence that we have in terrorist in poverty or terrorism. some of them are rich. >> to call him an extremist and one when president obama comes out after the paris attacks and says that this is an attack on all humans. no, it's not. isis is a well organized call to believe that it's a key agent in bringing about. they will do anything members of this cult will go to any extreme. you will have woman going the extremes, and until we ablg knowledge that and ignore the prove erargument, we can not ge away. >> having said all of that adam i am trying to give people the benefit of the doubt. one possibility is tha
there's no such thing as social radic r radicali radicalism. it's amazing. cannot say someone did not have a job or global warming created terrorism. >> yeah, i don't know what caused this guy to do what he did. poverty closes a lot of bad things and people do stupid stuff or stuff that's antisocial when they're and stupid stuff. >> yeah, but they steal and rob but you that to eat or whatever. >> i understand. i am saying that there's no correlation on evidence that we have in...
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as you report on this issue of radicalization, that is of course the big question, did one radicalize, who did who? how did that happen? at this point they don't know. but they did say that they know this has been going on for quite sometime. >> as the investigation has progressed, we have learned and believe that both subjects were radicalized and have been for quite some time. >> and they are continuing to see if there is any connection to another person either inside of the country or outside the country. but they raised possibility, which of course already has been a possibility that this could be self-radicalization through the internet. two other key points, one they said they are not at all done, focusing on rafia farook, that is to say syed farook's mother. what did she know, when did she know it. she lived in a small house with ounce if. and we have the childhood friend of syed farook who purchased the two assault rifles used in the shooting. he apparently checked himself into mental hospital. they haven't said whether they talked to him or not. they are trying to determine h
as you report on this issue of radicalization, that is of course the big question, did one radicalize, who did who? how did that happen? at this point they don't know. but they did say that they know this has been going on for quite sometime. >> as the investigation has progressed, we have learned and believe that both subjects were radicalized and have been for quite some time. >> and they are continuing to see if there is any connection to another person either inside of the...
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it appears farook became radicalized.e'd been in touch with at least one person that the fbi suspected of terrorism. for the latest, let's bring in cnn's john vause live in san bernardino. what's the latest on the investigation? >> they continue to search for that motive. and at this state they seem to be working on the theory it was possibly a hybrid between some type of act of terrorism and some type of workplace dispute. the fbi still not willing to call this terrorism, but they are investigating that possibility. but here it has been a night of sadness and grieving. hundreds have turned out for memorial services. there was a candlelight vigil at a sporting stadium and services at the largest mosque in the san bernardino county. and the coroner has now named all of the victims of wednesday's killing spree. they range in age from 26 to 60. and most of the victims we're told had some kind of personal connection to rizwan farook. 12 of the 14 dead. 18 of the 21 wounded worked with him at that county office. officials here
it appears farook became radicalized.e'd been in touch with at least one person that the fbi suspected of terrorism. for the latest, let's bring in cnn's john vause live in san bernardino. what's the latest on the investigation? >> they continue to search for that motive. and at this state they seem to be working on the theory it was possibly a hybrid between some type of act of terrorism and some type of workplace dispute. the fbi still not willing to call this terrorism, but they are...
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where is there evidence of religious radicalization? >> all we know is that the fbi identified a handful of people he was in contact with that they investigated. none of them were ever charged. look, the fbi investigated a lot of people since september 11th. the idea that he knew someone that was investigated is not farfetched. he was talking to people abroad and a handful of people and say this is odd and look at the preparations he had. this is not your average mass shooter. it is the combination of both. >> walk like a duck kind of thing. >> a combination of things and it has been difficult because they have never seen anything like this. >> we are learning so much but not enough yet. thank you for your great analysis. much more ahead on the massacre in california. we go back to the ground where the community is holding a vigil in honor of the 14 that lost their lives and we will get to the political fallout. presidential candidates are going to their battle stations with the frontrunner making dark allegations about president obama
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was he a lone wolf, self-radicalized? we know that online hate magazines generated by bad guy groups often teach you how to do things, like how to use toys and cell phones as detonators. maybe that's why it didn't work, because he was teaching himself. you say they were looking in that house for a reason and they found things. >> the investigators have been working all night long. they know a lot more today than they did yesterday about what their motive was, who these people were and who they may have had contact with. so i think we're going to hear in the press conference coming up here some very specific things that will tell us more about what the motive was and, as tragic as this incident was, it was horrific, it looks to me like the police intervention probably forced out a much more tragic outcome. >> look how they scrambled. what usually happens, if this is radicalization, if this is kind of that typical hateful terrorist attack, they usually stay there, try to do as much bad as they can, and take themselves out w
was he a lone wolf, self-radicalized? we know that online hate magazines generated by bad guy groups often teach you how to do things, like how to use toys and cell phones as detonators. maybe that's why it didn't work, because he was teaching himself. you say they were looking in that house for a reason and they found things. >> the investigators have been working all night long. they know a lot more today than they did yesterday about what their motive was, who these people were and who...
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and he went out and was radicalized.i all of this shows the importance of full blown investigation. and when you listen to lieutenant mike madden, you understand the great job cops have and the challenge they have. with the nypd and the police have been under siege because they want to carry out surveillance, find out what is happening in these commune pipts maybe this a wake-up call it people who somehow think the cops are spying and snooping when they are doing the police work that's essential to keep you and me safe. >> congressman, good to see you. >> megyn, thank you. >> up next, a chilling story that one woman shared with us about what happened when she was shot in this attack. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day. >>> you know, we have taken a lot of hits lately. some justified. much of it not justified.
and he went out and was radicalized.i all of this shows the importance of full blown investigation. and when you listen to lieutenant mike madden, you understand the great job cops have and the challenge they have. with the nypd and the police have been under siege because they want to carry out surveillance, find out what is happening in these commune pipts maybe this a wake-up call it people who somehow think the cops are spying and snooping when they are doing the police work that's...
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germany warning that radical islamist terrorists are trying to recruit new jihadist from among newly arrived refugees from serria and the middle east, reportedly identified more than 100 cases in which known esislamic extremists have tried to contact refugees. and as they go to europe they are going to mosques with links to extremism. germany to take in as many as 1.5 million refugees this year, that open door policy, by markel, could cost her, her job, almost half of germans in a new poll say they don't want merkel to serve another term. german olegermgerman election is next year. >> and low pan who opposed open-ended influx of muslim refugees is expected to win big in france's regional elections to be held sunday. american embassi embassy emin kabul. warned that americans to be cautious if moving around kabul. at home, national security aames surveillance program has expired from republicans are pushing to bring it back saying cell phone records help european officials track down terrorists and prevent another attack in paris, fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine her
germany warning that radical islamist terrorists are trying to recruit new jihadist from among newly arrived refugees from serria and the middle east, reportedly identified more than 100 cases in which known esislamic extremists have tried to contact refugees. and as they go to europe they are going to mosques with links to extremism. germany to take in as many as 1.5 million refugees this year, that open door policy, by markel, could cost her, her job, almost half of germans in a new poll say...