isn't it radio raheem who is... >> well, what... >> killed by police?> yes, but radio raheem was based upon a real murder. >> right. >> michael stewart. but here's the crazy thing. when the strangulation of radio raheem is based upon what the cops did to michael stewart at a train subway station. and then to see eric gardner... >> right. >> i mean i fell out of my seat. so much in fact that i called my editor, barry brown, and we put somethin' out on youtube - we intercut both strangulations. radio raheem which is fictional, which is based on fact, with the real life strangulation murder of eric gardner. >> and we as a nation watched that. >> the whole world watched it. and then look what happened. i don't think this is somethin' that's new. i just think that with social media because before the general newspaper, they're not... you know, they - they might not cover it. >> you look at, like you said, this movement. black lives matter. is it working? is it a true movement that can do something do you see it as? is this something that can actually make ch