for more, let's bring in nbc's raf sanchez. good morning, raf. >> reporter: frances, good morning. after relatively rare pushback from republicans in the house and senate, president trump now saying his controversial plan for gaza does not require american boots on the ground. that is raising new questions about how this proposal would actually work. the president saying israel would hand control of gaza over to the united states when the war is finished. now, under international law, israel can't just hand somebody else's territory to the u.s., and this is also raising new fears for that fragile cease-fire in gaza. delicate talks are beginning to get under way to try to move to phase two of that cease-fire. that would see a permanent end to the fighting in exchange for the release of all living israeli hostages. but egypt, which is one of the mediators in those negotiations, but also one of the countries where president trump says those displaced palestinian refugees should go, is warning that the president's controversial comments are destabilizing those negotiations. now the pre

. >> for the international reaction, let's get to raf sanchez. good morning, raf, what are world leaders saying? >> reporter: frances, good morning. what we're hearing in public from the region is rejection and condemnation. that is coming from the palestinians themselves, who say they won't leave their homes. it's coming from egypt and jordan, the two states president trump identified as potentially taking in these 2 million displaced palestinians. and it's also coming from saudi arabia, a key american partner in the region with whom trump hopes to broker a historic peace deal between israel and saudi arabia. we're also hearing strong words from american allies in nato, across europe, saying that they believe in a two-state solution. and they're warning the united states that any effort to try to force these 2 million palestinians from their homes would be a violation of international law. and it could be a war crime. now one place we are hearing a lot of support for this idea is in israel itself. some of that support is coming from the far righ

for more, let's bring in raf sanchez. good morning, raf. >> reporter: frances, good morning. following relatively rare push back by republicans in the house and senate, president trump now saying his controversial plan for gaza would not require american boots on the ground. that is raising new questions about how this proposal would actually work. but the president is saying that under his plan, israel would hand control of gaza to the united states after the war is finished. now, under international law, israel can't simply hand somebody else's territory over to the u.s. but it is also raising new questions about this fragile cease-fire in gaza. right now, talks are under way to try to get to phase two of that cease-fire. that would see a permanent end to the fighting in exchange for the release of all living israeli hostages. those talks are being mediated by egypt and qatar. and the egyptians are warning that president trump's proposal, which is meeting so much resistance in the middle east is actually undermining those negotiations. the president also signing an executiv

nbc's raf sanchez is joining us from london. the reaction to the appearance of these hostages. >> so a lot of shock, a lot of concern. alex, you saw in those images these men were frail. they were clearly very thin. doctors in israel who have done a preliminary examination of them are saying that they are suffering from malnourishment, that they are going to have specialized meals going forward. and a lot of concern from family members. i want to play you a little bit of sound from one of the three men released today about her reaction to seeing him. >> it's quite a shock because i was positive that his situation will be much better. i know him as an energetic guy for many, many years and he's in a very, very bad situation. as i can see from from the from the tv. >> so these three male hostages clearly have a long road to recovery ahead of them, not just physically, but also mentally, also spiritually. alex. >> yeah, for sure. hey, raf, there are still many hostages in gaza. that includes two americans. where do negotiations go

. >> for the international reaction, let's go to raf sanchez. good morning, raf, what are world leaders saying? >> reporter: frances, good morning. president trump says he spoke to leaders across the middle east who quote, loved this idea. what we're hearing is rejection and condemnation from across the region. that comes from the palestinians who say they are not leaving their homes in gaza. it includes egypt and jordan, the two american allies who trump has identified as potentially taking in those 2 million expelled palestinians. and it comes also from saudi arabia who is another key regional power. president trump hoping to broker a historic peace deal between israel and saudi. the saudis saying that's not going to happen if he moves ahead with expelling the palestinians. we're hearing also from european and nato allies. they're warning that any effort to move the palestinians out by force would be a violation of international humanitarian law. it would be a war crime. the one place we are hearing some enthusiasm for this idea is in israel i

. >> let's get right to it with foreign correspondent raf sanchez. good morning, raf. where does this leave the palestinians in gaza? >> reporter: frances, good morning. the president seems to be suggesting displacing the 2 million palestinians who live in gaza, potentially on a permanent basis, moving them to a third country, while the u.s. takes not just control but ownership of gaza. and he is not ruling out sending in u.s. troops to make this happen. it is hard to overstate, frances, what a radical idea this is. for starters, the palestinians have been very clear. they have no intention of leaving gaza. it is their home for the last 16 months of war, even with all the suffering there. what we have heard consistently from palestinian civilians is their top priority is to stay on their land and get back to their houses. this idea being rejected by both hamas and the palestinian authority. and the president is suggesting that these 2 million palestinians could go to egypt and jordan. these are both key u.s. allies in the middle east. but they are both flatly rejecting

. >> let's get right into it with foreign correspondent raf sanchez joins us live. good morning. where does this leave the palestinians in gaza? >> reporter: frances, good morning. the president seems to be suggesting that the 2 million palestinians who call the gaza strip home would be displaced, potentially on a permanent basis while the united states takes not just control but ownership of gaza, and he is saying he is potentially open to deploying u.s. troops to make this happen. now it is hard to overstate what a radical idea this is. the palestinians have been very clear, they are not leaving gaza. even over the last 16 months of war. the deep suffering in gaza before that. palestinians have said this is this home. they do not intend to leave. human rights groups have warned any ffort to try to make them leave by force is potentially a war crime. and the other big issue here is the president is suggesting that they move to egypt and jordan. these are both u.s. allies in the middle east. and both of those countries have said they are not open to this plan. but the president s

. >> now, nbc news international correspondent raf sanchez. raf, thanks for joining. you've spent a lot of time reporting from the middle east. so i'm interested to. >> hear what. >> the reaction is from your sources on the ground. and when you listen to the way that those senators are talking insane, deranged kinks in the slinky, i think that might be a little too cute. but are any of those reactions similar to what you're hearing from your sources in the middle east? >> so, ali, you. >> heard the. >> president say that he. >> had spoken. >> to leaders. >> in the middle east. >> and that. >> they. >> loved this plan. >> they thought it would bring stability. he notably. did not name those. >> leaders, and it is. >> very unclear who he's. >> talking about, because there. >> is a lot of alarm all across the. >> region right. >> now at. >> this proposal. just to. >> put this in context. >> ali. >> a. >> lot of presidents. >> both democrats. >> and republicans. >> have tried to come up with creative. >> out of the box. solutions to try to bring. >> peace between israelis

nbc's raf sanchez is joining us from london.ages appearance. and what have we learned about their health and how they're doing? >> so, alex, you and i have covered a couple of these exchanges now over the last couple of weeks, and you'll remember that in those initial exchanges, it was really kind of unalloyed joy in israel, especially at the sight of those young women coming out. they appeared to be, at least physically, in good condition. that was not the case today. these three male hostages, looking emaciated, looking frail as they were marched onto that stage by hamas. and they are not all coming home to good news, alex. i just want to run through their individual backgrounds quickly. so we have elie sharabi, 52 years old, his wife and his two teenage daughters were killed on october 7th, and it is not clear that he knew that as he emerged from captivity today. so it may very well be the case that he spent his first moments of freedom receiving the worst news that a father and husband can possibly receive, that his family w

raf, what's the latest on the newly released hostages? and obviously you've watched this unfold a few times now. so tell me what we are looking to see in the next hour. >> yeah. ali. so we are four weeks into this fragile ceasefire. >> it is continuing to hold, as you said, three male hostages coming. >> out today in exchange for. >> 183 palestinian prisoners. >> but there are big. >> questions about. >> how much longer. >> this. >> ceasefire can hold, especially. >> in the. >> trump era. >> so let's. >> start with the details. >> of what. >> happened this morning. >> we'll get on to the. >> bigger picture. ali, you and. >> i have covered. >> a. couple of these exchanges together. and you'll remember in the. >> early days. there was. >> just unalloyed. >> joy in. >> israel, especially. >> as these young. >> women were coming out. >> they appeared to be. >> in physically. >> good health. >> but today it was. >> a. darker picture, as. >> you said. >> these three male hostages all appearing. >> emaciated. >> appearing frail. they were. >> ab

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