rafael be espinel joins us. councilmember, thank you for being with me. >> thank you for inviting us. >> how difficult is this problem? >> especially in bed sty, i'm glad we came together with the administration to figure out ways to alleviate the problem. >> as we illustrated in the story it's sort of hard to create a ban on a drug that keeps on changing and defies law. so from an enforceability perspective, is what new york city and the state has done is it going to work? >> so far it has been working. you know, we are attacking the panging right? it promotes itself being potpourri or synthetic marijuana. we know away it is. we target the delis where we have ee seen these so-called zombies hanging outs. they can revoke a license of a establishment selling k 2. the city would have the right to shut down the establishment. >> have you seen the effects on these dellis? >> they have not too long ago seen the problem begin ofade away, they are not seeing as many people ton streets on k2, it's had the same amount of