drf rafael warnock is author of "the divided mind of the black church" the senior pastor of the ebenezer church and chief richard barry, the president of the international association of chiefs of police. thank you for joining us. dr. war knock, i want to start with you, where protesters or participants in the church stood up, they were vocal and they had a message for eric holder. let me play one little portion of this. [ chanting ] >> dr. warnock, they had their hands in the air and they had signs, it was hard for to us hear them. what was their message to eric hold centre. >> when you think about the whole movement or this chapter of the movement beginning with the shooting of michael brown, it's really the passion and commitment of students just like those we saw last night, that have kept this discussion going. and so it was a very spirited meeting. we were at ebenezer baptist church, the home church of martin luther king jr. so we're no strangers to this kind of engagement. >> but what specifically were they trying to impart to the attorney general? >> well, i think that they were