well, joining us now to discuss this is historian and broadcaster rafe heydel—mankoo . broadcaster rafefe, we must say that the number 10 spokesperson has just in the last hour or so, slapped down this saying that the policy hasn't changed. no reparations . hasn't changed. no reparations. but our foreign secretary, david lammy, appears to be very open to this idea . to this idea. >> yeah, it's always great to hear from from david mastermind lammy , the idea that this is the lammy, the idea that this is the man who's now representing britain on the world stage. i mean, you would have hoped that elevation to the international platform would have made him a bit more measured in his tone. i hope that we will see some more measure given the statement from number 10, compared to what he has said in the past. because let's be clear here, britain does not owe a single penny to anybody in the caribbean nations. this is nothing more than you know, some sort of avaricious cash grab by, you know , by left wing activists in know, by left wing activists in the caribbean, but also bad faith political

rafe heydel—mankoo, much indeed. rafe heydel—mankoo, historian and broadcaster.s great to speak to you. it could happen. >> no, but it's a fascinating comparison, isn't it? shall we compare? i don't know, jamaica to a country that the british never colonised haiti. i mean , never colonised haiti. i mean, which is richer, which is richer? >> there's a huge push for this. a lot of people working behind the scenes on this type of thing, where it comes from academics to activists to politicians to government officials, it's all entirely fictitious. i mean, all pushing for this idea of western reparations, particularly the british. >> so some islands in the canbbean >> so some islands in the caribbean are going to get more money. if this were to be approved. and of course, the government doesn't want to approve it. more money than the entire chinese economy. i mean , entire chinese economy. i mean, the uk , uk, gdp. i can't the uk, uk, gdp. i can't emphasise this enough is less than £3 trillion. that's the entire uk economy and they want reparations from us worth 19 t

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