secretary raffensperger: some of that is litigation. on the litigation part, we cannot comment. >> obviously with the new system, there are concerns and complications. i know there is a lot of litigation flying around your state when you guys going to issue the rules of the road for auditing 2020 in case there are any issues? secretary raffensperger: the way house bill 316 was written in the general assembly, this year, the audit process is a pilot audit. we have already began risk limiting audits for the mean support elections in the fall. that is the process we have started with. we had several officials that went up to virginia and observed their process. we have implemented many of those measures. we have already had a task force around audits and what that process will be. we will have that defined. will be codifying that in the state election board meetings next year. this year, our big lift will be having statewide mentation of the new system and doing audits -- statewide implementation of the new system. we want to implement tha

as secretary raffensperger, it is a long process, a big rollout. it's not something realistically they can say we want to and six months later are doing it. that's not realistic. but you can do it, and if you employ the sort of strategy, the resources, and, you know, develop good laws, you can roll this out. a subpoint is you should be doing audits before you certify results. because if you certify results and then do you an addit and the audit finds there was a problem, you've put the wrong people in office, and then you have a real substantive, perhaps pretty significant, long-term problem that you're going to have to be in court about, and you might even have the wrong people in elected offices. so you really should be doing those auditing procedures before you certify outcomes, which in many states would require changes in law to push out certification. those are two really important areas in which i think the bipartisan policy center and the group of people that we've brought together to do those recommendations really identified very good rec