let's go to raffi. what do you make of her story? >> well, obviously it's very difficult to refer to the specific story as i'm sure that there are a lot of more details to be learned about it, but i think it does represent the level of sometimes absurd that we have reached following the attempt to provide a single level of security across the board to everybody. and what cathi pointed out was the fact that she and the rest of the crew have gone through a vetting process that looked into their background. actually, the pilots that hold the stick of the aircraft in their hands, they obviously are going through the background checks necessary to make sure that they will not fly the aircraft in the wrong direction. so it obviously brings up the question, are we right with this approach of one size fits all security that we are implementing across the board? >> so then what do you suggest? a lot of people say we need to look at israel and look at other countries who have problems with terrorism. maybe we should do it their way. >> well, t

raffi, i want to turn to you because we invited you on because of a clear record of success at tel aviv'se screening. the screening starts, really, even before you hop out of your car. >> well, that is correct, but watching the process that is going on around the country, i must say that the american public has to decide, as long as we want to deliver one single level of security to everybody, we have to understand that it will be increased from time to time according to the threats. >> absolutely, and that's exactly what the tsa is saying, but if we may just go to tel aviv specifically, because we're fascinated with the security there, the interviewing, the checking of the car, the luggage. if you can, sir, walk me through how it works over there. >> well, it's different because the security in tel aviv is delivered on a completely different paradigm, which is first of all identifying the level of risk for every individual passenger and then adjusting the level of search to the level of risk. that is going to be a very successful approach, and it allows us to let most of the public not b