economy was ok and ragan had a land slide and for biden, does -- does he really want to be facing an november? i doubt it. >> one thing the white house has going for it right now is that the labor market is strong and the economy is strong. >> i wouldn't want to be in joe biden's position. do you want to allow inflation to increase? donald trump put a lot of pressure on the fed so i think biden will try to stay away from that because he doesn't want to do what his predecessor did. geoff: earlier you mentioned political messaging. the white house has councilled what is now a new proper noun to scuss inflation. putin's price hike in all capital letters. they're using it in emails and press cferences and things. it was initially used to describe the increase in gas prices and now they're using it for everything across the economy. be mr. will that less nate, do you think? >> i uld not bet a foot nickel on it. the polls say americans would support biden in this fight against putin but the polls also say americans want to eat more vegetables and exercise. the president is the guy at the

the republican party started as the party of lincoln and it is not now, not even the party of ragan. richard nixon got one third of the black vote, started the epa, was environmentally sensitive, expanding the clean air act. george bush said, if you pass an extension of the assault weapon ban, i will sign it, but they could not get it to him because of democrat and republican votes. i offered to be the only republican to support the ban if democrats could get it over the fence and they could not. host: do you think you could be elected today? guest: no. i decided early on that it was better to speak what i believe and that meant opposing president trump then to stay in office. host: kenneth, missouri. caller: good morning. you are an old country club republican, you and this cheney. -- liz cheney. i am a vietnam veteran. i am a republican, but you are a go along, get along and have been through most of my life. you give into the democrats. you are past history. you could not win your district now because people in red states do not like country club republicans such as yourself. we t

last year it was the strongest economy since the ragan administration. the next recession will happen. >> a number of other banks have also raised the probability of a recession at the very least. goldman sachs and some others have placed the odds at about 1/3. so deutsche bank is still an outlier, but we do see this sort of darkening of the economic outlook right now among a lot of forecasters and economists and it's partly because, as you just read, the fed is tasked with getting inflation under control. and historically when they have done that, when they have raised interest rates, most of the time that has accidentally tipped us into recession. it was always going to be a really challenging task for them to figure out how to dampen inflation to get it under control. >> part of the problem is everything is hitting at once. >> yes. >> inflation was already running at a 40-year high, now russia invades ukraine and now we see these lockdowns in china which can't make matters any better. >> yes. it was always going to be a difficult and narrow path for t

ronald ragan also very much law & order and then here's cash kind of taking the slide of hardened criminals. so ixa think that is a really interesting example of the way that it relates to people even people who are guilty of horrible crimes. >> part of it is the interaction with the audience and the noise and response that he gets. would you be willing to talk about some of that? >> sure. there's a few songs on the records that i think part of this is a product of the way the producer and the label managed it. they edited some songs. most is made up from the first and they kind of cleverly added them in so there's a kind of rise and fall thing going on where you have a really exciting song followed by a soft reflective song followed by another exciting song and you're right, the way that he speaks to the prisoners in between the songs is as important to the things he's singing. he clearly aligns himself with them when he's talking about the guards or asks for a drink of water and they are slow to bring it to him and the crowd starts cheering at the personnel for not treating their guest be

and on the right, the ragan people did a marvelous job. you'll see kennedy and reagan very popular presidents with the public at large. and that takes work. it wasn't by us amoes is. it wasn't by who is the best president? it's just that they were able to project and the two most visited presidential libraries were the reagan library and the kennedy library. people are invested in those two leaders. >> what do you think of presidents being the age of joe biden? >> it is better in a perfect democracy that we had leadership in their 40s and 50s showing a new generation carrying the torch. the wheels came off the track recently. the fact that we have two people in donald trump and joe biden going head-to-head. it was a little bit of a head scratcher. i am not sure that will be repeated. but it might. we might have a repeat match of trump-biden. it's very possible. i think it is more opt mall if we had younger presidents because of the energy factor that it takes to be president. however, you can delegate. reagan did a marvelous job even after

the republican party started as the party of lincoln and it is not now, not even the party of ragan.ichard nixon got one third of the black vote, started the epa, was environmentally sensitive, expanding the clean air act. george bush said, if you pass an extension of the assault weapon ban, i will sign it, but they could not get it to him because of democrat and republican votes. i offered to be the only republican to support the ban if democrats could get it over the fence and they could not. host: do you think you could be elected today? guest: no. i decided early on that it was better to speak what i believe and that meant opposing president trump then to stay in office. host: kenneth, missouri. caller: good morning. you are an old country club republican, you and this cheney. -- liz cheney. i am a vietnam veteran. i am a republican, but you are a go along, get along and have been through most of my life. you give into the democrats. you are past history. you could not win your district now because people in red states do not like country club republicans such as yourself. we thi