raghuram: great question.you look at what the pandemic has done, it has exacerbated every division we had, whether it is on the basis of race, on the basis of education, we are sitting working at home, others are on the front line dealing with the pandemic or serving people in stores. the issue is how do we bring the country together in a stronger way? i believe we have to look at disadvantaged communities, we have to look at communities that have fallen behind, and we have to ensure we provide the people , stronger sense of empowerment but also greater capabilities and the new economy we are creating. that requires work from the bottom up. this is a lot of work. it requires a transformation of our economy. in the long run, this will be the way we get sustainable growth, not through more and more debt, but through stronger growth. that is what the book is about. jonathan: professor, a powerful conversation. we appreciate your time and look forward to getting you back soon. that is professor raghuram rajan . on