so that may be part of this hearing that you are referencing, director rahaim. i want to remind depths of what -- remind us of what ami means. it is always helpful. for myself to remember, 100% of median for a family of two, which i believe is the average in the city, is at $82,000 per year. so when we say housing for middle income or moderate income, everybody has a different idea of what that means. for me, for a family of two, for me, it is actually still fairly low. so it is not necessarily what he may think of colloquially as a moderate income. that is it for me. at this time, we will take general public, and -- general public comment. >> just a moment. >> thank you. >> thank you. and you are correct. at this time we will have our 15 minute general public comment category where members of the public may address this commission on items of interest to the public that fall within the subject matter jurisdiction of the planning commission, with the exception of the agenda items which may not be addressed during this category but only at the time their calendar