rahaim commissioner peskin. >> thank you chair wiener to director rahaim i have a number of questionsst really as a function of governance and d t x move forward any discussion between the various agencies caltrain this body, the city by and through the planning department or other agency san francisco municipal transportation agency as to who will ultimately lead the d t x projects. >> lead the actual design and construction of it. >> that's correct. >> that's certain been on the table we are and as currently constructed tjpa is responsible for financing and building and maintaining the d t x there the been issues that is correct or not but i think that is certainly part of mix of tdecis that is happening. >> whether the tear down is necessary for the d t x expansion. >> it is likely not depending on - the alignment but given the enormous public investments something on the order of 6 or 7 or $8 billion not including the term we thought that was appropriate to look at it as a better transportation as a whole. >> relative to the street connections we agree are important are those cons

. >> director rahaim when we took on the reconsideration on harrison and the gentleman was involved and you it is really a powerful discussion anchoring reconsidering the building with the rincon hill plan we shouldn't not omit doing in for openers not take into account this building as a individual solution but a large requirement i have basically all buildings have responded to now this comes as the last seed we are occupying this assembly with a relatively ambiguous history we have to be extra careful we're book ending the san francisco moving on the friday i think that requires a lot of sensitivity and as i say we will be remiss in not pirating u putting that into the discussion. >> just to be clear including

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i can't possibly write that fast and think that fast to give you a coherent response so director rahaimo be able to commit we'll have those things he said we'll have them by may 5 and they didn't come on may 5th they didn't come up come to a couple of days ago the go commission should ask director rahaim for his staff to get the things out so we'll not have to tell you in 2 minutes and you said make a quick decision everybody needs a thoughtful process thank you. >> next speaker >> hi happy bike to work day i want to talk a little bit about the bicycle lanes in san francisco and how some of the decisions that you're making are impeding the functioning of the bicycle lanes a project that you approved i think that was last week or the week before that was on - (inaudible) 16th street street underwear jackson by the park side in their document they said they wanted both block the 16th street bike plain a lane for the possibly lanes of construction for the project they suggested that bicker e bike environmental impact statement eers get to get to use the bike lanes and developers shouldn't

director rahaim. >> thank you, commissioners a few comments on this first wanted to thank the planning department staff if office of economic workforce development and oewd and all the community members that have been involved truly a joint effort i think an unique one and one that i find extraordinary valuable and i have found it an incredible learning curve and an incredible process and appreciate the dialogue that is happening i think the interesting thing that you're seeing the primary goal to stabilize the neighborhood recognizing that the neighborhood is going to grow and change and the issue is how you can do both our colleagues in the tenderloin like to call that development without displacement a good phrase i think that is exactly the goal we have here to try to the greatest stent within our power to create a situation where you can have now new residents while not sdrech the fabric of the neighborhood that's the goal what you see on the spreadsheet some of them are planning code and many are not implementing 0 these will be the responsibility of a number of different agencie

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. >> director rahaim when we took on the reconsideration on harrison and the gentleman was involved and you it is really a powerful discussion anchoring reconsidering the building with the rincon hill plan we shouldn't not omit doing in for openers not take into account this building as a individual solution but a large requirement i have basically all buildings have responded to now this comes as the last seed we are occupying this assembly with a relatively ambiguous history we have to be extra careful we're book ending the san francisco moving on the friday i think that requires a lot of sensitivity and as i say we will be remiss in not pirating u putting that into the discussion. >> just to be clear including the project sponsor none questions the size or bulk or scale it is the design considerations we the access issues. >> except i think that the gentleman said or commissioner vice president richards brought it up for the harrison building we reconsidered the height lines to get the project i'm not sure saying - i hope there will be commissioners participating in the broader works

. >> director rahaim. >> thank you, commissioners to wrap up the staffs presentation first of all, thank you to staff to put together that chelsea this is the first time we've done a report like this is a eir not an - and tina for putting together this great staff report it lays out the staff's recommendation on that point and shelly on the preempt this is a lot of projects coming at everyone at once i appreciate that with respect to tinas presentation i want to summarize what we are asking for feedback on pages three and four of the report our thoughts on the policy recommendations and why we recommended what we have on the various projects so there is a series of policy directions and recommendations or policy basis for your recommends that's one thing i want preliminary thoughts on those if that's the right basis for the recommendation and second, of course, is the actual recommends on the properties that the properties is tina highlighted in her presentation they piloted the ones we're recommending so we are recommending preliminary this is a preliminary recommendations we'll make th

. >> i have one question director rahaim even though this is cooperative it would be a rent-controlled unit. >> what was it built. >> in 61. >> so taking the rent-controlled units off the margaret commissioner antonini. >> the board will have to approve any rental i don't believe that is happening in that building it operationally is true. >> that's the board thinks this by allowing register in that believe it would turn that unit into a go rent-controlled unit i think that is doubtful the board will approve. >> i tend it to agree with commissioner hillis i think you have to look at each situation individually some mergers shouldn't be allowed where there is units for saving a rental but more accountable this is what w you have common ownership no reason to believe that the owner will sell either the two units eve it is not allowed to merge them it will inconvenience the owner of their own property there can be serious legal ramifications. >> i believe that all the units were introduced by supervisor avalos his intent is correct it is a preserve affordable units and also to make sure t

. >> i have one question director rahaim even though this is cooperative it would be a rent-controlled unit. >> what was it built. >> in 61. >> so taking the rent-controlled units off the margaret commissioner antonini. >> the board will have to approve any rental i don't believe that is happening in that building it operationally is true. >> that's the board thinks this by allowing register in that believe it would turn that unit into a go rent-controlled unit i think that is doubtful the board will approve. >> i tend it to agree with commissioner hillis i think you have to look at each situation individually some mergers shouldn't be allowed where there is units for saving a rental but more accountable this is what w you have common ownership no reason to believe that the owner will sell either the two units eve it is not allowed to merge them it will inconvenience the owner of their own property there can be serious legal ramifications. >> i believe that all the units were introduced by supervisor avalos his intent is correct it is a preserve affordable units and also to make sure t

is there any additional public comment in any order first director rahaim for taking the three-leggedool seriously and to recap that you know it was my suggestion that as an illustration if one of the legs becomes inbalanced shortening of the level of the top part of stool is to the level it is uncomfort i appreciate the portions and think we have the housing adapt as well as the transit just want those data cliepdz will address the planning work that is what we're here trying to do so- yeah. i think it is interesting information you know take into account candle stick point, 5 m growth and mission rock office and mission bay we've got a lot coming online understanding not a crystal ball scenario but i am concerned maybe we've it's been. >> preview six or seven years of construction and maybe we're at a point of over supplying potentially so i want to - use this information to see what the housing and transit piece to the gentleman says one of the stools that a cut short it is difficult we have a larger project coming out next week but will provide a potentially check in fees to help

. >> director rahaim i appreciate your summarizing what i think commissioner hillis summarized preferreday of doing it also paraphrasing we think things somebody said but start with an open mind and fresh and highlighting the activities and the conflict and the potential solutions and move forward with a clean slate nothing and everything is on the table to discuss to agree on with a positive way this is the housing size no doubt in my mind about this is i know you will have a sixth body of experience and nothing is undoable except the realistic questions and certain observations we have normal than you participate in the conversation he feel this is the best way of handling it. >> if i may pest of that will be helpful in the community can identify two or three people. >> ms. tucker are you prepared to do that now can you please come up and let us know. >> let me talk with practical please carry on conversations out in the hallway. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to continue this matter to june 30th and to have community meeting with at least 2 of the commissioners to be part

. >> director rahaim. >> thank you, commissioners to wrap up the staffs presentation first of all, thank you to staff to put together that chelsea this is the first time we've done a report like this is a eir not an - and tina for putting together this great staff report it lays out the staff's recommendation on that point and shelly on the preempt this is a lot of projects coming at everyone at once i appreciate that with respect to tinas presentation i want to summarize what we are asking for feedback on pages three and four of the report our thoughts on the policy recommendations and why we recommended what we have on the various projects so there is a series of policy directions and recommendations or policy basis for your recommends that's one thing i want preliminary thoughts on those if that's the right basis for the recommendation and second, of course, is the actual recommends on the properties that the properties is tina highlighted in her presentation they piloted the ones we're recommending so we are recommending preliminary this is a preliminary recommendations we'll make th

. >> director rahaim. >> thank you, commissioners to wrap up the staffs presentation first of all, thank you to staff to put together that chelsea this is the first time we've done a report like this is a eir not an - and tina for putting together this great staff report it lays out the staff's recommendation on that point and shelly on the preempt this is a lot of projects coming at everyone at once i appreciate that with respect to tinas presentation i want to summarize what we are asking for feedback on pages three and four of the report our thoughts on the policy recommendations and why we recommended what we have on the various projects so there is a series of policy directions and recommendations or policy basis for your recommends that's one thing i want preliminary thoughts on those if that's the right basis for the recommendation and second, of course, is the actual recommends on the properties that the properties is tina highlighted in her presentation they piloted the ones we're recommending so we are recommending preliminary this is a preliminary recommendations we'll make th

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example the environmental impact report usually every month it i talked with the director director rahaim he mentioned four or five the number he said is a a substantial job maybe the developer hold on to see what is happening but needed to, you know, think about everything. >> so, i mean that gives them an opportunity to see the backdrops; right? >> (laughter.) . >> yeah, i'm kind of lvns did they give you a percentage how much has dropped. >> to 60 percent. >> that's big because environmental can be the most timely part of the equation. >> i hope i'm not taking our thunderstorm commissioner walker talks about that in planning and time and things sitting there and so on a part of our approach to how we look at how busy we'll be obviously will be planning as well i mean that is important that we be given reports saying their system it down looking at a hiring increase or decrease it is the way we can get that from them or something they can forwarded to you and make that part of our presentation it is slowing down or a number of percentages. >> it is difficult to get the number as there i

. >> director rahaim. >> thank you. i want to kind of summarize what i heard in the commission and give us direction for the next two weeks the date july 28th that will be the next hearing we'll present the eir to you for conversation as well as the in violation of essentially part of the planning code changes for housing i heard you said they generally supported the policy basis for the early recommendations with one addition which was to look at the assistant housing to the actual san francisco public utilities commission to try to address the transportation i heard a lot of support for looking holistically at all the buildings and looking at the intent of the campus that was kind of the intent for the policy basis recommendations but i think perhaps the thing to side when we come back with the first banish of approvals and disapproved approvals to have a discussion why in the context of the larger institutional property we'll be recommending approval or disapproval we'll do that a specific request about the octavia b

has the requirement to deal with light and exposure to the area spent a lot of time and director rahaimthers remember it to speak about the green wall we work hard work hard to have it built this project needs to engage in a larger dialogue what will they do are there to commissioners who i would be curious to hear i would ask we continue this building i think i support the development on this site the shape and form challenge that i'm not saying to fix it but get closer but this project needs to do a hell of a lot for for approve for any support. >> commissioner hillis. >> just some questions for the project sponsor on assess in this first street change i'm trying to look at on the 45 lansing i think there is entrances to the garage both on first street and lansing? >> 45 harrison. >> just on harrison yeah. >> just on harrison. >> yeah. >> so did consider harrison and or lansing for parking and it is a e what is a your rational. >> this is one of the first issues with all the challenges and, in fact, we worked as early on as the prepta meeting with the staff and pta meeting we looked a

think those are all sorts of places where we could do a lot of growth and then i'm not sure director rahaimaid we looked at option 3 and wonder why the transportation cost we could get the money but in a dense urban area per mile is expensive to build transportation but you're not going as many miles and also getting more desirable results because people are living close to what they're working and using their cars less and have the advantage and skills we've not done in almost a century you can make a tlunl u tunnel through a hill and cut the cost of construction not ripping up the streets and coyote on the other side, however, automatically got a line to the richmond district so i think we have to think outside the box i think that you're also better off to yield scrawl and having growing up in livermore valley how it was a castro area the one speaker talked about the water problem i see that area is turned into homes and when i grew up that was a truck farm and dairies and a lot of uses not have the water demand and as we continue to build sprawl we're sucking up for water by their natur

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. >> director rahaim's. >> please ask what are the spots out of curiosity. >> every block will have merchants it is a silver bullet but just. >> - good afternoon decorations so the reason we brought this proposal because an existing computer shutters southbound on 24 street that is a shuttle zone eurozone large enough for one shuttle when happens some of the speakers adu alluded to the shuttles will block the bike lane and drivers at the crosswalks the new zone on 26 street is large enough for two shuttles they'll park there without blocking the salvation army driveway the logic to remove a zone two small and one that is alongside. >> this will share the zone okay. >> not a frustration. >> director ramos i want to remind us all that is a very much are still a relatively exploratory phase of what we want to make permanent these things can be adjusted relatively easily i certainly emphasize with those who ride their bicycles up and down hate street during the commute times i have to commend with the large vehicles and i know they can be imitating at the same time i know that i recognize they're

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. >> director rahaim i'll be interested were those considered for hire density or originally startedntinue what you see on hickory that is basically hickory and oak street facing buildings stacks on the housing, etc. probably get less than half of currently in terms of units that would be a pattern on a 8 foot wide lot not have the problems that we have here i'm not saying to change that but trying to the how you thought about >> sorry i couldn't answer he was wasn't here part of dowel to have a footage facing octavia. >> as opposed to the size of the building as well. >> now the reality of everything that happened rapidly not been able to - when we revisit this in june. >> commissioner wu. >> i second the request for renderings to see what that looks like from the federal and will ask the developer to meet with the building residents that will help clearly the city i understand that we can't turn our backs but whatever to mitigate the presence of a building just seeing the steps taken to do that would that would be helpful. >> commissioner vice president richards maybe to commission