that is rahm emmanuel. >> rahm emmanuel tends to be competitive. >> i thought that was smart competitive. why can't you take the financial houses, why can't you take the auto companies and have them build these partnerships. they used to say to me what can i do for the schools, and one of the things they can do for the schools is really help us transform the schools from strictly one career -- one college pathway model to a multiple career pathway model and give kids choices. we had a high school, four year high school that was basically a design and construction high school in queens, at the end of four years when you get out of high school, you can apprentice right into the construction unions, over $40,000 a year. and the kids loved it. and my whole theory of what's going to happen is we're going to then see the kind of diversification that actually addresses the needs of the kids rather than saying, here is the needs of the school system, and the kids have to accommodate to the needs of the schools rather than vice versa. >> very interesting. this is a great topic. it couldn't be mor