rahul gandhi isn't your official president or leader at the moment, but...leader. ..he�*s the most influential man in the party. and your actual leader, mr kharge, is 80 years old and known to essentially be deeply loyal to sonia and rahul gandhi. so where's the change? where's the dynamism in the congress party? well, it's a difficult question for me to answer, because i'm the one who ran against mr kharge in the party's internal election as the advocate of change, and i was rather soundly trounced. so this is your invitation from me, to be very honest. why is the congress party so stuck, so averse to real change? no, but you see, the issue at the moment is that change is coming from the other side. in other words, we've got india being changed into something it hasn't been. i've talked about the injection of bigotry and the doctrine of hatred into our society. and you've cited a number of serious examples against a particular minority community, our largest minority, which don't sit well at all with those of us of the congress persuasion, or, broadly speak

let's move to the politicking as well with rahul gandhi who is at the moment, the former president ofndian parliament. we won't get into why but he has been making noises. menaka: he has been making some noises. and staying in the news all through now. two things to note here. his visit comes just weeks before prime minister modi's first state visit to the u.s., and that is going to be a headline grabbing one in terms of prime minister modi and his interactions with the diaspora in the u.s. which we have known from past instances are not -- are large-scale events. his interactions with president biden, the state dinner. it is going to be a headline grabbing one. at this point in time, a few weeks before that, gandhi seems to be making headlines about his u.s. trip. he is on a visit to three cities in the u.s., san francisco, d.c., and new york. he is playing but the victory and victim card if i may put it that way. his party has just come off a very strong victory in the state of karnataka, and you pointed out he has lost his membership of the parliament at this point in time. these a