unlike, for instance, some of the coffee companies that are rainforest alliance—accredited, or some ofe badge on, and everybody has comfort that that's come from a sustainable source, with our industry that doesn't happen. and that disconnect‘s a very big problem. foi’ me as a consumer, it is very difficult to know which products actually contain sustainable palm oil. there is a logo from the roundtable on sustainable palm oil, rspo for short, but it rarely makes it onto our cosmetics labels, so how will we know? local people have lived in and relied on the rainforest for thousands of years. i came to do a bit of exploring. so beautiful. lots of wet ground. a lot of wet ground, because, you know... shade. this is nick's land. it's about as far away from somerset as you can get. this spider was bigger than my hand. massive spider. bigger than i've ever seen. they won't kill you? they won't kill you. they can try. what if it jumps? it's incredible. it's beautiful. words can't describe this place. so full of noises and beauty. it was really quite overwhelming. what really moved me was how