. >> at the wellesley commencement speech she gave, is that when she had raisa gorbachev that day? >> yes. she introduced mrs. gorbachev and mrs. gorbachev also spoke to the graduates. and that, too, offered an interesting counter-point to nancy reagan because nancy reagan and raisa gorbachev did not get along at all. so it was quite a bit different. sir? >> the comment i was waiting for you to talk about the rhymes with witch comment. could you put that in context? >> i certainly could. yeah, i know ran out of time. i'm sorry i did have it here. the comment that this gentleman is referring to came about in 1984. mr. bush was running for re-election as vice president. and he had a debate with geraldine ferraro, the democratic nominee for vice president. and in the debate, ferraro said that he didn't -- he had no idea what normal people were going through because his wealth insulated him from normal life if you will. so mr. bush was on the campaign airplane the next day, and she was talking to reporters. and she was, obviously, really unhappy about that comment, and she said, well,