and even one boy who i write about in the book from sere yea raleigh krone, when i met him, he was basically on his own and had been since the anal of 1 or 15 -- age of 14 or 15. so the parents weren't always in the picture. but he did later have a legal guardian -- >> host: was that mohamed? >> guest: yes, it is, yeah. so, you know, all of the kids i had them sign release forms or their parents or legal guardians. someone was, you know, protecting them, and so was i. it was very important to me that -- >> host: how did mohamed get into the country? >> guest: how did he get into the country? um, he came here with a church group and, um, you know, the understanding was that he was supposed to live in connecticut for a certain amount of weeks, and, um, he did. and he adjusted well, and, um, you know, i don't want to give away his whole story -- >> host: sure. >> guest: basically, he had come from one of the poorest places in the entire world, she yea raleigh krone -- sierra leone. he grew up with no running water or electricity. one of more than 20 children, his father had had a few wives. and