the training is twofold raley. -- really. we need to keep our staff at the same level of knowledge as other departments we're working in partnership with. also to your point, supervisor kim, it is important to keep our staff at the same training level as the people around as. travel -- if your recommendation would be to reduce the air travel budget significantly, perhaps we could bring more people into the city rather than us going to visit them? the reality of our job is we support a very broad technology -- right now, we do have to go visit. we have not taken advantage of that in the past as much as we should have. i like your idea that perhaps we should bring more people into the city to share knowledge with us. perhaps we could agree with the budget analyst recommendation on reducing the air travel portion. i do feel strongly about the training. i feel it is very important. our work force has been reduced to the level where it is important to me to feel like every one of our staff is trained at the best level possible. ma