ralph acampora joins us from snowy minnesota on the phone right now. good to see you again. >> a lot of frustration. we have not been able to pierce 20,000. you think the side ways is a good thing. >> i agree. i'm just as frustrated. we love a rising market. there is an old saying the ones that go down the least are the new leaders. i'll tell you i don't want to be in emerging markets or gold. i don't want to be in retail. what is holding it nicely is industrials, financials, regional banks, energy and old tech. i think as you mentioned i'm a big believer in the honeymoon period. i like to look back at the reagan years. he had a very nice honeymoon that carried into april of the first year in office. i think trump will do that. you looking at maybe another 10% on the up side. >> that 10% to the upside you are talking about looking for a huge move now that underlying dynamics have changed. >> i'm only talking the first quarter. 10% on the upside first three months of the year i think everybody will be happy with that. >> does it keep going? do you have