the three firms are a lie anssinger, bob murray, and ralph anderson and associates. >> this is take two, we were trying to do this last month and i did not read my minutes. or i did not read my agenda items and i left out the fact that we had to take an action on this. so we are back here. we had a detailed discussion, obviously commissioner walker was not here and so if she wants to weigh in or if you have questions on this. but, not to leave the conversation but we are leaning towards one that we want to vote on. >> i think that the three, top choices any of them would be fine, i personally have experience with bob murray and associates who helped us the last time ta we went through this. i think that all of the, especially the top two, that i think, people are talking about, have experience with planning and building officials which is critical because those relationships will give us a wider reach in candidates. so that is really keep for me for making sure that they had connections in the industry that we are trying to look at for candidates. do we need further discussion on this?