ralph ellison's invisible man, what i am suggesting to you is just about all of the writers, and tom and i talked about this earlier, that most writers out there at one time or another in their career have dabbled or had one of their books or essays or something like that that had elements of satire there. certainly with the invisible man, which satire can go in so many different directions. it can go to the tragic. it can go to the comic. it can go to the sci-fi. it can go to speculative fiction. it could go to fantasy and you will find it even beyond the literary genre. at talk about it from a television stand blind like in living color or saturday night live are mad magazine. all these things have dabbled or have had some aspect of satire involved there. and if you come down across the years, if you go back to the harlem-- and you mentioned george schuyler, black no more. in black no more, my theatrical standpoint probably tom can deal with this better. day of absence, that is where you find it happening within the theater and many times i was thinking about george wolf, the museu

novelist as well that the essayist on race that means the most to not just me but to many people is ralph ellison. and you would always hear these -- these passages from him about americanists and african-americanists being indivisible. and i think there is no fact on american life that makes it plainer than the story of obama's assent. whether you are a fan of his politics or not. that the facts of his election and the fact of hillary's election if it had happened and a woman, god willing, would be elected very soon, and i hope a qualified and a wonderful one -- [laughter] >> i didn't mean that as a shot at hillary at all and i mean that. this is an important moment in american history. it doesn't solve our problems in iraq and afghanistan and iran. it doesn't fix everything. it doesn't even fix everything about race. but it's enormously important if youare about america-esse and what that means. >> david, thank you. [applause] .. >> laura browder author of "when janey comes marching home: portraits of women combat veterans," and kara vuic author of "officer, nurse, woman: the army nurse corps i

ralph ellison's invisible man, what i am suggesting to you is just about all of the writers, we talked about this earlier, most writers at one time or another in their career have dabbled or had one of their books or essays or something like that that had elements of satire. invisible man's satire can go in different directions. from tragic to, a to sci-fi to speculates to fiction to fantasy, beyond the literary genre. in living color or saturday night live or mad magazine. all these things, some aspects of satire involved. we talk about douglas turner ward, that is where you find it happening in the theater. many times we talk about george wolfe, the colored museum. the ridicule and to stab to change things. a number of these driving concerns when you talk about satire. i was looking at erasure, a more recent book that deals with that. there is a very humorous thing in which he lampoons or parities or does a signifying job or the movie precious. i recommend that to you. very fine writer who gives this notion of satire, a current disposition or reflection. across the years, you have a

you know, bsa, the novelist as well means the most not just to me but many people is ralph ellison. you would always hear these, these passages from him about african-american as being indivisible. i think there is no side on american life that makes that plain id. the story of obama's a ascents, whether you are a fan of his politics or not, that the effect of his election and effective hillary's election if it had happened and god willing it would have been elected very soon and i hope a deeply qualified and wonderful one. [laughter] i didn't mean as as a shot against hillary at all. i mean out. this is an important moment in american history. it is not everything. it doesn't solve our problems in iraq and afghanistan and iran. it doesn't fix everything. it doesn't even fix everything about race, but it is enormously important if you care about americanness and what that means. >> david, thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> david remnick is the editor of "the new yorker" magazine. he was a reporter for "the washington

means the most not to me but many people, is ralph ellison. you would always hear the passages from him about americaness and african-americanness being divisible. i think there are nothing that makes that plainer than the story of obama whether you are a fan of his politics or not. : [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >>> david is the editor of the new yorker magazine and reporter for the washington post. she is the author of king of the world about muhammad ali and lance tomb the last days of the soviet empire. for more information, visit newyorker.com. up next, syndicated columnist and former three-time presidential candidate pat buchanan joins book tv for the three hour "in depth" interview. >> host: pat buchanan, in the 2007 book day of reckoning in the chapter entitled the gospel of george bush you write that ideologies is the golden calf. ideologies is the substitute for religious faith. as ideologies that? >> guest: i can't know that it's bad but it is a substitute for faith and political religion. it is a system when