at the time of our interview, ralph menzes had been on death row 17 years. >> i remember when ralph menzesk to him. they're setting up the lights getting the microphone set making sure the lighting is just so and it's important to establish a rapport very quickly and ralph and i start to have a little bit of small talk, and i'll never forget. i asked him, hey, what are you watching on tv these days? and he told me that he was a big fan of "the oc." >> i see "oc" all the time. >> yeah? >> i like that. >> what's your -- got to be honest, i love "oc," too. what's your favorite character? >> my favorite character is kelly rowan. >> yeah? >> she's pretty hot. >> menzes' interest in women became more disturbing when we learned the details of his crime. >> ralph's crime allegedly was a brutal one. kidnapped a female from a convenience store and took her up one of the canyons, tied her to a tree and then cut her throat and then left her there. >> well, i've always maintained my innocence. i've done a lot of things in my life, you know, that i'm not proud of, but this particular one is not one of t