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and they've got to be 200 o election with ralph nader and al gore and george w. bush to point to to prove it. >> but he's an irrational crazy man. nothing he's doing is putting him on the path to winning the presidency anyway. obviously he has reasons other than having a rational desire to be president. maybe it's to get attention. maybe it's to build some weird brand or satisfy some ego desire. but i wouldn't assume it just because something sir rational donald trump won't do it. because that supposition has been disproven over and over again. >> okay. that is a very strong point. i'm placing my bet tonight he'll not run as an independent. all i can do is bet in response to that. i have no come back to that. the irrationality point. now let's listen to the way donald trump handles interviewers. they all suffer this. they cannot possibly keep up with the lies. let's listen to how it typically works. >> you know, when i came out against illegal immigration, everybody thought the same thing. two weeks later, everybody was on my side including the members of my own

in the same area we saw congress spurred by ralph nader's consumer crusade, passed laws, highway safety and auto safety, you had a law regulating testing of toxic chemicals, creation of the occupational safety and health administration, the power to make surprising sections at workplaces and levy big fines and employers, a book we relied on on research for the influence machine to hold paragraphs and paragraphs of all the regulations is the clean air act. we would think the chamber of commerce would be at the gates, demanding these laws are not passed, but public opinion has way overpowered but the organization itself was not built at all, was not founded for this kind of combat over images elation, the organization made its influence, priorities and faults but intended to be a itself and work on the system. and imposing very big costs on business. business can't just in to work and less regulation without becoming problematic for them. there is fundamental need for counterbalance and it was naturally the chamber of commerce that traded its role to provide counterbalance. the chamber ha

[applause] >> so i thank you, ralph neighbor--ralph nader... >> [laughter] >> ralph nader, the consumer advocate in our neighborhood. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. thank you. thank you. [laughs] [applause] [applause] thank you. thank you very much, and good evening to every body. thank you so much for coming out tonight. to the muslimell legal fund for inviting me here and for the outstanding work they do. i'm as genuine as i can be when i say everyone in those two organizations is extremely impressive, even inspiring to me because of the work they do in areas where very few other organizations are able or willing to venture. i'm truly delighted to participate in any event they sponsor any work they do. for the last 6, 7 years, i have been writing about the systematic erosion and attack on civil liberties in the united states and the war on terror that justifies those erosions that drivesm-phobia those. the past few years i have been spending an increasing amount of time traveling around the country speaking about these issues at events like this, similar offense on college

and what worked almost all the time was saying, "you may not agree and you may not vote for ralph nader and winona laduke. but will you sign this petition to get on the ballot in order to give the people in california who want to vote for nader and winona laduke the choice to do so?" okay? so either we are all equal, have equal right to run for president, and therefore, we're trying to take votes from one another, and therefore, we can be called spoilers of one another or none of us are spoilers. third party candidates, libertarian green are not second-class citizens. and the last i heard is george w. bush took more votes away from gore than i did. huh? now i've asked gore this, people have asked gore, "gore doesn't even come close for blaming the green party." he says, "there were dozen things that happened." he thinks it was stolen from him in a variety of ways in florida. he thinks he lost his home state of tennessee, had he won it. everything else happening the same, he'd been in the white house. he didn't think that winning the popular vote should lose him the white house because t

and ralph nader so those who are focused about so it is better to do it for the postmaster general. they have not said either way. one. >>. >> i have relatives that have fallen victim they dig themselves into a whole they cannot get out of. if they live paycheck to paycheck city said the purposes is to anchorage economy. they don't speak or think and long-term. it is very immediate. how did they encourage those people the way to manage their money better? and who would help them? if i go to mail a package i would not trust but maybe they would. >> i think a lot of people it isn't necessarily a lack of education but i dunno how to manage. but if i live in a paycheck to paycheck i would have more financial skills now with the buffer. so they express a higher awareness. i am not saying they are the most educated but they do know what they are getting into. that living paycheck to paycheck. how does this encourage savings? >> all that money came into the postal bank and the data shows there is a lot of money not in banks people who have money to save with no place to save that. whether

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what you see and what you allude to you are right as an incredibly radical a moment as we defend ralph nader who did that elect george bush in they had to destroy and represented those interest by corporate power nobody has working harder than him but you are right to point that out as a seismic moment but probably the most pollution into the planet is entranced by these electronic hallucinations but the crux of this issue is when this transformation takes place, it is largely imperceptible then it is too late. >> i want to attach on what he said his father with his career and studying the family system is the root of so many problems that we just don't have really good leaders to give those of leverage to stand up for what is right. i try to bring this up all my life it was not popular. the lack of fitness fitness, health, high standards and standing for what was right at set koch a young age and i was always trying to get people to stand up for more more than just having a good job or pay your mortgagee and having kids. and i would always point out that low standard that was set you have t

they would use that ralph nader model in which that turned out to be true. >> i will shift gear. you came became from malaysia. doing. desks. we raised over $9 million. we bring desks to african schools where kids and teachers have never seen desks. this wasn't my idea. i asked teachers what they need. every one of them said desks and chairs. we need a more serious education environment in the classrooms. that is what we are doing. we provide scholarships for girls. girls' education is a lower graduation rate as it is for boys. that is all part of the michelle supporting girls education. >> i appreciate you being here this morning. lawrence o'donnell, you can see on msnbc.com. >>> let's turn to the other big story we are following on the saturday morning. the extreme weather certainly not feeling a lot like christmas here in the east. temperatures in some cities may be as much as 30 degrees above normal today. dylan is back with us more now on the record heat and possible severe weather in the plains. >> because not only are we talking about record heat, but dew point around 60 d

. >> doesn't it remind you of what 15 years ago, gosh, 15 years, the 2,000 election with ralph nadernering? >> and i'll go back even further. peanut farmer, jimmy carter, became the president, yes. >> well, let's ask mike, because we want to bring him in on. >> this mike, what do you think about the person of the year? >> oh, he's going -- >> we went off course. we had to go down to sixth street. so she had to run from fourth all the way down to sixth to catch us. there go. >> yes, we did. >> thank you. >> good to see you all. thanks for coming out. >> to get serious for a second here, i have a feeling it will be that leader of isis, i mean, isn't that the biggest story of the year? and they do have negative people on the cover. >> well, mike, they've already pick the person of the year, just came out with it, german chancellor,. >> is that right? >> they just came out with the announcement. >> she has done -- oh, she has done a lot. there is a guy revving his motorcycle. >> scene out of creed. >> has done a lot for her country, that's for sure with her financial crisis. casino of tu

supporters would support him as an independent, which meant he would do a little bit better than ralph nader as an independent if you do the math on it. he knows the math, he's not going to do it. he made that very clear last night. the table is set, donald trump is not going to destroy the money republican party as running as an independent. he's going to destroy the republican party by getting the nomination. >> i think that's what he's saying. carrots, avocados, they're all vegetables, right? i think that's exactly what he's saying. and look, to the extent that we in the media and analysts and political strategists dismiss the fact that donald trump is running ahead of the field by a lot in national polling, we do that at our own peril and risk of our own credibility. why would he say he's going to run as an independent right now? he's the favorite for the nomination. and of course, would it be surprising if donald trump pivoted later on to another position? but i do want to add to another thing you said that's fascinating about the iraq last night. the other end of that equation also sug

and i also spent right a bit of time in a van with ralph nader. i covered all of those people. i think fairly because whatever my personal feelings are about politics, i think that i could bring in objectivity to it. i think if i was out there saying, my personal feelings, then that takes away from my ability to be seen as someone who is fair. you get called out on it. i jumped about something was on facebook and three people were like, you're an editor at the l.a. times you should not be saying that. i said i'm sorry, also in my sense of humor now, too. to be fair, in my flash of anger, i thought, they have a point. everything is public. the idea that there is a private facebook channel or even if you only allowed authorized people to follow your twitter, that woman got fired for the jokes about ebola or was it ebola? she was an idiot. really. i would say nothing on social media with the expectation that it would not eventually get out. the sony hack taught a lot of us that even what you say your e-mail is potentially public. i think it is challenging. we start conversations.

. >> can you pull some votes away from her in a close election the way ralph nader did to al gore in two? >> he could potentially. i know see who is natural basis. i don't see people fired up because of jim webb. i don't see him getting the visceral, guttural attraction that ross perot was able to get. cheryl: the words are getting thrown out and not disappoint. at the same time the languages out there. >> killer is like teflon. she's gotten everything thrown at her with this benghazi thing. i don't know if it will help him by doing this. >> is the same base he has. her party is not being liberal enough especially on foreign policy. in order for someone to detract as you said that ralph nader, you have to have someone more liberal like bernie sanders who we are not talking about was pulling very close to her and would not be surprised if hillary clinton loses one of the early states to him. cheryl: after january 1st a lot of it going. thank you very much. make sure to tune into the fox business republican debate on thursday, january 14th. right here of course on the fox business netw

they use that ralph nader versus al gore model where that was true. >> i will shift completely. you came back from malawi bringing debts to schools in need. >> kids in need of desks. you can learn about it at last word. we raised over $9 million. we bring desks with kids and teacher who is have never seen desks. the teacher said and i asked him, every one said desks and chairs. we need to have a more serious educational environment. that's what we are doing. we have scholarships for girls. it means a lower graduation rate. and that's all part of the michelle obama malawi idea about trying to support girls's education. >> great work. appreciate it this morning. lawrence o'donnell that you can see on msnbc.com. >> let's turn to the other big story we are following. the extreme weather. not feeling a lot like christmas here in the east where temperatures in some cities may be as much as 30 degrees above normal. we have more on the record heat and possible severe weather in the plains. >> not only are we talking about the heat, but looking at dew points around 60 to 70. moisture str

ralph nader was a spoiler for alco gore. with ross perot, it was very different.emocrat,ly gathered republican, and independent candidates. in the polling that was done after the elections, it is clear that 31% of the vote would have gone to clinton. way tochoice voting is a allow people to express their preference without being worried that their expression would lead to the worst candidate. there is an effort in maine right now could be the first .tate to have ranked voting i think it is a wonderful initiative. it is another way to get at the process that we are talking about which is to invite and encourage independent, third parties, and others to be competitive. host: if you want to learn more about what peter ackerman is you can follow- his group on twitter. he is chairman of level the playing field. i appreciate your time this morning. herext, we will talk about tax advice. he can start calling it now. we will be right back. ♪ >> with congress on holiday recess, the c-span networks features a lineup of primetime programming. monday night at 8:00 eastern on

and we have seen ralph later, for that matter -- ralph nader, for that matter, having an appeal to blue-collarers. there has always been these voices for discontent out there, what will we are lacking is a real program for addressing. -- addressing the culture. factor is another that back in the late 1960's, you had single-digit number of kids in america were born to unmarried mothers. in recent years, you had 40% of kids born in america to unmarried mothers. for ak it is very hard person being raised in a nontraditional family to get through school and graduate. host: terry jeffreything or two about pat buchanan, serving on his campaign, previously with human events, and he now serves as the editor in chief of cnsnews.com. at work available online townhall.com. who is ance page, author, and is, of course, is syndicated columnist for the "chicago tribune." this is a comment from gene, who is a regular tweeter from all hell. he says let's stop blaming government for everything. it is the politicians who run our government. go to andy, kentucky, the democrats line. good morning. caller: hey, goo