you, bernie and ralph nader are my heroes. it is such a pleasure -- pleasure to talk to is a retired machinist. i had to comed home to take care of my non-. she's 89 now. thank god for unions because there's just no good paying jobs. i was going to support warren but after seeing the rally with bernie because i gave bernie $900 for his campaign. to ralph nader's campaign. host: what was it about the rally that convinced you? caller: i was thinking maybe we need a woman. bernieth warren mirrored sanders pol a g's. like mike, i like paying my taxes. hour imaking $30 an should pay my fair share. i like to drink clean water and when i flush the toilet i would like to know it's not going into a river or lake that i would like to eat fish out of. next time you are in traverse city hi would love it if you stupidutograph my book white men which by the way you stole from me because i was saying that before you even wrote the book. i would love to do that. if you want to just bring it by, i restored a couple of old movie theaters in nor

who was not a partisan figure in that stage and not really a supporter of either party but ralph nader argued deregulation would be better for consumers and that has proved to be true. the one that has affected most americans in many ways, airline deregulation. we use to have the days of table cloths and silver salt and pepper shakers but the price of affairs was so much the great majority of americans couldn't afford family vacations, going on a plane. if you have ever been in orlando airport you would get an idea there's a lot of americans who can afford a family vacation by aircraft today thanks to deregulation. that squeezed cost and transportation, that is an achievement president carter can take pride in. >> a surprising political battleground in the midwest, you make the following point that of the 100 electoral votes that switch democratic to republican votes in 2012-2016, 50 were in the midwest, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, iowa, 20 were in pennsylvania, demographically at -- more closely resembling the midwest than the rest of the northeast including towns like scranton, pittsb

later in the show, we'll talk to ralph nader about the investigation. one of the nuances -- look, you don't know who to believe in this if you really read through what boeing is trying to say about the messages we saw on friday and what this test pilot was saying, if they're to be believed, is they're saying that the messages they lied about this and the plane was working erratically were really about a simulator they were claiming was malfunctions, not the plane itself. >> i didn't realize. >> having said that -- >> i'm not sure what the actual answer is. >> they turned this over to the criminal investigation the faa wants to know why they were so slow bringing these to the faa's attention. >> the piece today in the journal is that a lot of the engineers at boeing are contracted out to help the faa so they have this duel role. >> duel role is a big problem. >> you see the stock today that's today the 64 so my point just separate from boeing is that the dow is up 65. >> even with this pressure from booing. >> would be triple digits if it wasn't in gains

mike, you, berny, and ralph nader are my heroes. it is such a pleasure to talk to you guys. as a retired machinist who had to retire early when my dad died ecause i had to come home to take care of my ma. she's 89 now. but thank god for unions because there's just no good-paying obs. i was going to support warren, but after seeing the rally with bernie -- i gave bernie $900 for his campaign. i also donated to ralph nader's campaign. host: what was it about the rally that convinced you? caller: well, i was thinking, you know, maybe we need a woman. and elizabeth warren mirrored bernie's policies, which i -- i'm a socialist. i like paying my taxes, dam damn it. if i'm making 30 bucks an hour, i should pay my fair share. i like to drink clean water. and when i flush the toilet i want to know it's not knot going to go into a river or lake that i would like to fish and actually eat the fish out of. and mike, next time you are in traverse city, i would love it if you could autograph my book, "stupid white man" which by the way you stole from me because i was saying there before yo

we were founded by ralph nader to be the people's representative.e don't take any government or corporate funding. our focus is on china -- trying to make the government work. how that undermines the functioning of our democracy. we have a very substantial amount of attention devoted campaign-finance reform and ethics rules. doesn't work, the outcomes are going to be something that doesn't work. >> this a huge appetite for in fact represent is passed hr one the first bill the first major bill the signature bill of this moneyss of transformative in politics pro-democracy reform legislation that would have among other things replaced the current campaign-finance system which is dependent on large donors. hr one come about as a response to the citizens united case? that: i think the energy came from across the country in response to citizens united is what led to the passage of one. host: lots there. focusing on a couple of those key points. guest: there are four main points. the first, conflict of interest, i think that's the most important one. on th

saying about every other person that run as third party candidate, like jill stein or bob barr or ralph nader. >> speaking as a russian asset, it does in the make sense, she suggests if tulsi gabbard would run as a third party. kennedy: i asked her, she said no. >> she will steal votes from hillary clinton, propel donald trump to a second term. in reality, i'm not a tulsi fan but she is a very interesting and quirky view point set, that would draw as much from perhaps you know, right of center then the left of center. not clear it would help the democratic candidate any more than donald trump, unclear where it would draw from and i think would be insignificant in the end it does not make sense. kennedy: hillary clinton rails against jill stein. gary johnson got twice as many votes as stein, she never talked about him, and john-joh johnsone votes. >> not political opponents, it has nothing to do with her believing if the russians have tulsi, she does not believe that, she went against the her. supported bernie sanders and withdrew herself from the dnc, you know what, country is sick and tired

example, take the 2000 election in which ralph nader got 3% of the vote but he really swung the electionorge bush. al gore actually won by half a but we popular votes, count votes by the electoral college. if you were a nader supporter, you could vote for the native, but you know he's not going to win. you could cast a second approval vote for al gore and instead of losing by 97,000 votes, well, , the 97,000otes would vote probably about two to one for outdoor, so he would have won by tens of thousands of votes rather than losing by 537 facilitated by the supreme court. >> it sounds like it would have made indifference in 2000. in whichhe situation hillary clinton won the popular vote and lost the electoral college but there wasn't a strong third-party candidate. >> no, there wasn't. i think trump would probably not have been the republican nominee. he was the strongest minority candidate on the right, but governor kasich from ohio probably would have been approved by more republicans and polls show that he probably would've won the republican nomination against trump. they tend to find

i'm still angry about ralph nader and the 2000 election.mething she's been i don't know whether tulsi gabbard is connected with the russians, but the russian state media has been very favorable toward her. she won't come out and really go after assad who is a genocidal dictator. and so i think congressman can quickly figure this out, quickly put it to rest by, you know, coming out and saying assad is a bad man and i don't want the russian folks coming out and supporting me in the media. >> president trump is tweeting about this today. seems to think it could work in his favor. is this good or bad are for the democrats right snow? >> well, listen. i don't ever like to see democrats fight with one another. however, the broader bigger issue is we need to be very careful as we head into this 2020 presidential election. if you thought russia was active in 2016, they are going to take it to a new level. whatever they did to help donald trump, it has paid off for them. the issues of nator and everything else trump has done since he's been in offic

you, bernie and ralph nader are my heroes.uch a pleasure -- pleasure to talk to is a retired machinist. i had to comed home to take care of my non-. she's 89 now. thank god for unions because there's just no good paying jobs. i was going to support warren but after seeing the rally with bernie because i gave bernie $900 for his campaign. to ralph nader's campaign. host: what was it about the rally that convinced you? caller: i was thinking maybe we need a woman. bernieth warren mirrored sanders pol a g's. like mike, i like paying my taxes. hour imaking $30 an should pay my fair share. i like to drink clean water and when i flush the toilet i would like to know it's not going into a river or lake that i would like to eat fish out of. next time you are in traverse city hi would love it if you stupidutograph my book white men which by the way you stole from me because i was saying that before you even wrote the book. i would love to do that. if you want to just bring it by, i restored a couple of old movie theaters in northern mi

who was not a partisan figure at that stage and is not a supporter of either party now but ralph naderrgued that deregulation would be better for consumers. i think that has proven to be true. that hashe one affected most americans in many ways, airline deregulation. we used to have the days of little silver salt and pepper shakers and airports but the price was so high that the majority of americans could not afford going on a plane. if you ever have been at the orlando airport, get the idea that there are a lot of americans that can afford a family vacation by aircraft and that is thanks to deregulation. that is an achievement that president carter can take pride in. host: chapter 14 is a surprising new political battleground in the midwest and you make the following point that of the 100 electoral votes that switch from democratic to republican votes between 2012 and 2016, 50 were in the midwest. ,0 were in pennsylvania specifically west of netra philadelphia. -- of metro philadelphia. pittsburgh,cranton, meadville. guest: another 29 electoral votes in florida, large parts of which

i say nader, you think of ralph nader. >> i don't think ralph nader i like him, though. >> great man.> thank you >>> we have a lot more coming up on "squawk box" this morning boeing's board voting over the weekend to strip ceo dennis mullen berg of his chairman title. we have the details of what that means next. >>> then later, don't miss our news maker of the morning. treasury secretary steven mnuchin will join us at 8:00 a.m. eastern time to talk about this china trade deal and so much more. as we head to a break, here is a look at the premarket winners and losers in the dow. here, it all starts with a simple... hello! -hi! how can i help? a data plan for everyone. everyone? everyone. let's send to everyone! [ camera clicking ] wifi up there? -ahhh. sure, why not? how'd he get out?! a camera might figure it out. that was easy! glad i could help. at xfinity, we're here to make life simple. easy. awesome. so come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. ♪ >>> boeing's board is tripping dennis mullenberg of his chairman title phil lebeau joins with the latest of this, i think,

one more on the aircraft itself which is we had ralph nader on this program several times since thesee aircraft itself is fatally flawed that no change in the system or anything else can fundamentally change the physics of the plane. what do you think about that assessment >> i've spoken with mr. nader, and also he is a family member of one of the crash victims and certainly has a point of view. i do not agree with mr. nader in that respect i think this plane is imminently fixable. we need to make sure that it has been fixed before it's back with the traveling public but i don't think it's a hopeless cause by any means. i one that, that he has that point of view. i think it's, frankly, a view held by a very, very small minority of people >> senator, before we go die want to ask you about these impeachment hearings and how you intend to vote >> well, i'm not at all inclined to vote to remove president trump from office. i do want to say that i look forward to a vote in the house of representatives and i've been calling on the house to do the impeachment as was done in the nixon inquiry

we were founded by ralph nader to be the people's representative in washington, d.c.are funded by donations from tens of hundreds of thousands of individuals. we do not take any government or corporate funding. our focus is on trying to make the government work for regular people. we have a big focus for consumer advocacy. we are profoundly concerned about the problems of excessive corporate power and how that undermines the functioning of our democracy. so we have a very substantial amount of attention devoted to campaign-finance reform and ethics rules, because we know it is -- if the process does not work, the outcomes are going to the things that do not work for americans. host: is any appetite for campaign-finance reform? guest: there is huge appetite. congress passed the first signature bill of this congress -- money in politics, pro-democracy reform legislation. that would have come among other things, replace the current campaign-finance system, dependent largely upon large donors -- there is one that relies on substantially -- host: did it come about as a res