and the only time the green party in new york has got that many was when ralph nader ran for president in 2000 and i was the gubernatorial candidate in 2014. so 2014. we have a challenge to retain are valid. when new york times got wind of the democrat plan on this ecretlation, "democrats' s plan to kill third parties." this new threshold is triple what we had before every two years, presidential and gubernatorial. if we lose the ballot line, we need 45,000 good signatures and a six week window, which means 90,000 signatures, because democrats challenge petitions and drag processes out. new york is one of the hardest states in the country for a third-party to get on ballot. joe biden is ahead 30% in new york. shame on any progress of the votes for biden, when the green party could lose their ballot line. we need that 2%, 170,000 votes at least. angelo walker is my running mate, someone i have known since 2014, she was running for sheriff in milwaukee, as an independent socialist against david walker, a trump loving and histive democrat, slogan was, don't call 911, get a gun. she though

in 1960s ralph nader wrote a book "unsafe at any speed" about chevy corvair, automobile safety. mass gathering is unsafe any size. i don't know how you can figure it. people together without social distancing, the virus will spread. it's all over this country. why you would do this, insanity, don. >> president keeps insisting when not writing on the website the accomplishments that they solved this problem, keep insisting we're rounding the corner, rounding the corner. how bad could it get if people stop following the safety guidelines now? >> 2,000 people dying a day? 2,500 people dying a day? in few months could be half million americans dead. can be really bad. we're going to have a vaccine but we have to get there, hunker down, be safe and smart. we're smarter than this, just need better leadership. >> thank you doctor, i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> made a lot of promises. how many has he kept? digging into the president's promises next. ahead, comedian, don't want to miss this, behind these videos. >> and i tested very positively in another sense, so this morning, yea

many think that she would have a ralph nader phenomenon third party candidate.iphon a lot of votes that might have otherwise gone to al gore in 2000. but to make of that threat if you thought that? right now. bill hemmer has been looking at the various states. someone like that could make a potential difference. maybe in a state like georgia. >> i was watching that on fox business today. i think she made some interesting points. if you look at 3% of the state-wide vote, you could make a difference not only at the senatorial level about the presidential level as well. this is georgia from 2016, and donald trump 5-point winner over hillary clinton. if joe biden is going to flip the state and get a lot of coverage. it's here in atlanta and the surrounding counties in the suburbs atlanta, georgia. he was down here with a nod to fdr a little bit earlier today in a rural county, not a lot of votes. he will get some attention here back in fulton county based on tv coverage in media coverage. this is the number he's looking for, 284,000 votes in one county. if he's goin

meanings and i think you are referring to an antitrust version of free enterprise that someone like ralph nader later embraced as well. i think that tradition is there, but one of the interesting things about free enterprise discourse of the sort i am writing about is that it is the reverse of what you are talking about, which is a lot of big is this people speaking as if they were small business people. that is the essence of one of my chapters, and one of the things you constantly see from people like the president of gm that gm is no different than the corner grocery or the peanut vendor and so forth. a lot of these business lobbies used that language repeatedly, where the economy is made up of entrepreneurs and individuals but not of large corporations. the free enterprise discourse i'm talking about completely -- it is usually spoken by people who come from that world but who deny its existence altogether. i don't think it is in contradiction. this is a term that has many uses. i accept that there were other versions out there and i do treat them in my book. >> up against the wall in the b

but we have seen examples in certain battleground states where people like a ralph nader in the pasthat otherwise would have gone, let's say, to al gore that year. and do make a difference that way. but that's about the best they can hope for. what do you say? >> well, what i say is i hope i can make a change. and people have asked me about being a spoiler. the only way i could be a spoiler is if the other two weren't doing their job. you know president trump came in said i'm an outsider. going to cut the deficit and debt and he has done none of that. we have seen the debt go up higher than president obama. what he had done what he said he was going to do he wouldn't have to worry about me. >> neil: let's talk about a couple of where you stand on some of the key issues. true to libertarian thinking you are really against government involvement or pushing their thumb on the will and freedom of people. but you raise some concerns when that included your opposition to lockdown the vaccine mandates. are you saying on the vaccine mandate issue that if one were to come up to deal with covi

and the only time the green party in new york has got that many was when ralph nader ran for presidentn 2000 and i was the gubernatorial candidate in 2014. so 2014. we have a challenge to retain are valid. when new york times got wind of the democrat plan on this ecretlation, "democrats' s plan to kill third parties." this new threshold is triple what we had before every two years, presidential and gubernatorial. if we lose the ballot line, we need 45,000 good signatures and a six week window, which means 90,000 signatures, because democrats challenge petitions and drag processes out. new york is one of the hardest states in the country for a third-party to get on ballot. joe biden is ahead 30% in new york. shame on any progress of the votes for biden, when the green party could lose their ballot line. we need that 2%, 170,000 votes at least. angelo walker is my running mate, someone i have known since 2014, she was running for sheriff in milwaukee, as an independent socialist against david walker, a trump loving and histive democrat, slogan was, don't call 911, get a gun. she thought

and i think you're referring to sort of an antitrust version of free enterprise that someone like ralph nader later embraced as well, or estes kevolver as well. i think that tradition is there. one of the things about free enterprise discourse of the sort i'm writing about is it's almost the reverse of what you're talking about, which is it's a lot of big businesspeople speaking as if they were small businesspeople. that's the essence of my "i pencil" chapter which is that -- one of the things you constantly see from people like alfred sloan, the president of gm, is that gm is really no different than the corner grocers, and a lot of businesspeople use that language repeatedly where the economy is made up of entrepreneurs and individuals but not of large corporations. the free enterprise discourse i'm talking about completely -- it's usually spoken by people who come from that world but who deny its existence altogether. so i don't think it's in contradiction. this is a term that has many, many uses. i'll fight you to say that my version is by far the most dominant in the 1930s, but i accept

over the years, i supported george wallace, ross perot, ralph nader and currently a ron paul supporterned, i went to a rally in 1968 in madison square garden. george wallace and his vice presidential candidate, curtis lemay. 21-minutes standing ovation by a sellout crowd. during the presentation, there were some hecklers way up in the far-reaching seats, about six or seven of them. you could see the lights from the cameras. when the event was over, the local news, we only had three channels in those days, the only thing they reported was the hecklers that were heckling george wallace outside madison square garden were about 50-mounted police and motorcycle men expecting riots. it was very peaceful. what i have learned at this rally and over the ensuing years is how unfairly the media treats third-party candidates. c-span wasn't around in 1968 but if c-span was around in'68, george wallace would have done even better and i think in'72, if he wasn't shot, he had a good shot at winning. >> tony, let's leave it there. dan carter, that was, of course, the american independent party that geo

ralph nader made a difference, in 2000 so he's is a legend and a third party movement, and i think a person who was rightly part of the contenders. >> last 32nd, so did ross perot make a difference carolyn? >> oh absolutely, i think he was a wake up call. he put issues on the agenda, and the deficit ended up being a surplus, and the budget was balanced during the clinton years. so now maybe, the tea party people think that we need another wake up call. but he definitely had an impact. >> as we close out our contender series, a special thank you first to mark focus, who is the executive producer of this series, and a guiding light for all of these programs. and who richard and to richard norton smith, who has been our consultant in this project. i was the brain child behind it we first got started. thank you for all your hard work. we close our ross perot contenders program, with a look at his theme song, and this is an election night 1992. as he is greeting his supporters. >> just having said that, you have to play our campaign theme song crazy. okay. here we go. ♪ ♪

ralph nader made a difference in 2000. he's a legend in the third-party movement and a person who is rightly part of the contenders. >> carolyn barta, did ross perot make a difference? >> absolutely. i think he was a wakeup call. he put issues on the agenda and the deficit ended up being a surplus, the budget was balanced during the clinton years. so now maybe, you know, the tea party people think that we need another wakeup call. yes, he definitely had an impact. >> as we close out our contenders series, a special thank you to our guiding light for all 14 of these programs throughout the fall and to presidential historian richard norton smith who has been our consultant in this project and really the brain child behind it when we first got started. thanks to both of you for all of your hard work. we close our ross perot contenders program with a look at his theme song and this is election night 1992 as he's greeting his supporters. >> having said that, you got to play our campaign theme song "crazy." ♪ ♪ crazy for feeling

ralph nader obviously made a difference in 2000. so he is a legend in the third party movement. he's just, i think, a person who was rightly part of the contenders. >> carolyn barta, your last 30 seconds. did ross perot make a difference? >> oh, absolutely. i think he was a wake up call. he put issues on the agenda and the deficit ended up being a surplus. the budget was balanced during the clinton years. so now, maybe, the people already think that we need another wake up call. so, yes, he definitely had an impact. >> as we close out our contender series, to special thankyous. first to mark parkas who's the executive producer of the series and our guiding light for all 14 of these programs throughout the fall. andrew presidential historian richard norton smith who has been our consultant in this project and really the brain child behind it when we first got started. thanks to both of you for all of your hard work. and we close our ross perot court contenders program with a look at his theme song. this is election night 1992 as he is greeting his supporters. >> just having said

were it not for ralph nader in 2000 and jill stein in 2016, it is quite likely that a republican would in the 21st century. i mean, that really -- those two green party candidates were the difference, and just think about that. democrats would have held the white house for the past 16 years were it not for candidates taking away from al gore in 2000 and you have to assume that gore would have likely gotten reelected in '04 and taken away from hillary clinton from 2016. >> yeah, and that's a message we've by the way heard from bernie sanders himself who's liberal credentials are in no question whatsoever. he said to his supporters, i know we don't agree with joe biden on everything. i know he doesn't go as far as we would go on some of these issues, but this election is too important. you've got to go out and support the candidate. an important message from bernie sanders, but to mr. hawkins, i'm ci citing people who would agree with him on everything he said. >> he votes cutting the military by 75%, that would be a dream for vladimir putin, president xi and some of the other people. >>