start with the pile on with members oturu congress and ralph nader jumping into the fray. what why your reaction? what is your reaction? >> yeah, first of all id say ultimately the kind of stuff we develop, it's supposed to be complimentary to what's out there and less about competing. we're not there to try and remove the driver and replace it all together. our goal is to be able to just make cars substantially safe or reduce fatalities or accidents and have that be the key focus and lost in the noise of all the self-driving world and the next generation technologies so i think that's absolutely critical, and the honest take is that, you know, while i think you're pointing out a lot of stuff with tesla as a critical focus for it. i think the reason why they've garnered so much attention is largely because it's a big claims that are being made all around it. the reality is that these court issues are not unique to teslas and relevant to everyone in the industry, and the reality is that even the most advanced assisted driving system today, which is essentially what they are

. >> first of all i want to give you kudos on that ralph nader blog. [inaudible] [laughter] thank you. state and federal my point but i want to put together with that as this community recently had state-of-the-art street fair. i've noticed it appears to me it is a profit center. and i see that as an evolution and different committee type functions within the smallty communities third things that used to be a family affair that free or very low cost have evolved into a commercial enterprise for what is basically not transparent. part of the thing with yourf ralph nader blog thing is your talk about transparency towards the end of the interview. but there's something missing from somebody's evolutionary type things within the communities such as this recent art street fair that it comes to what appears to be a commercial enterprise could you speak to that issue? no one. >> okay turn it off. [laughter] [laughter] [inaudible] >> now i'm stuck i have no idea where my glasses are your glasses. [laughter] oh my gosh. [laughter] >> i cannot comment on the spe

it was actually her former boss, ralph nader who suggested when he found out she passed away that i create some kind of award, fun, something for subject she cared about. what that was a great idea i spoke with my children adam and hope. they thought it was something we should do and it occurred to main we ought to create an award for book reviewing. there are very few journalism awards for book reviewing. none really for nonfiction public w affairs based books. which is the coolest passion. hans also took us a little while supposed together friends and family across the country pitched in to provide the funds we needed to get this thing going. we've been doing it now three years running. part tell us a little bit more about kuklula's work. >> she and i were married for 31 years when we were married she was working for public tv. to the journalism major and immigrant from india. she is a a brilliant woman witha wonderful sense of language. a passion for politics, history, she basically took over the editing of the book review section and built herself a stable of writers who loved working

know editing book reviews primarily on nonfiction subjects and it was actually her former boss ralph nader who suggested when he found out she'd passed away that i create some kind of. award or fund or something for a subject she cared about and so i thought that was a great idea. i talked to my children adam and hope they thought it was something we should do and it occurred to me that there we ought to created an award for book reviewing there are very few journalism awards for book reviewing none really for nonfiction public affairs based books, which was the coolest passion. and so it took us a little while to pull ourselves together and you know mourn her her loss but a lot of friends and family across the country pitched in to provide the funds we needed to get this thing going and we've been doing it now three years running. so mr. glastros, tell us a little bit more about cocula's work. she and i were married for 31 years when when we were married she was in working for a public tv. she was a journalism major from indiana university and immigrant from india and a brilliant woman wi

into a commercial enterprise for what is basically not transparent part of the thing with your ralph nader blog thing. was that you were talking about transparency towards the end of the interview as something that's missing from some of these. evolutionary type things within the community such as this recent art street fair that become what appears to be a commercial enterprise and could you speak to that issue? so that i assume you mean the coconut grove art? yes, okay. okay, let's turn it off. give it her. so that was well, so it's a i'm now i'm stuck on my lavalier thing. i don't have no idea where my glasses are. anyone see your glasses. okay. oh my gosh. so i can't comment on the specifics of the art fair, but let me i but let me let me let me answer. the question that i would have liked you to answer which i asked which i think it was. i you know, i do a lot of interviews and i've been am i okay? okay, and there's something important to understand it seems stupid almost is that one of the you know, one of the first thing i have to say is things cost money. and is really only one pla

and wrote silence spring, which i think is probably maybe the one that comes closest to it is ralph nader's unsafe at any speed the book that changes the world's view of something in this case ddt, but there's a second character that you pair her with even though they never met and that's norbert wiener the most as he was called in a newspaper headline when he was 12 years old the most remarkable boy in the world, i think page 149. yeah. yeah. yeah. shall i read some or yeah, i think read that from the bottom pay bottom page for 149. norbert weiner was 12 years old when rachel carson was born. but he was the most unlikely 12 year old. well others his age were in fifth or sixth grade. he was entering his freshman year at tufts university. in 1906. that was the that was the article in in the world calling in the most remarkable in the world. and it's hard to imagine anyone who better fit that title. he told the world reporter. he had learned much more from reading ernest heckles the riddle of the university in german than homer in greek since homer was just telling stories. yes, he said of co

ralph nader elected george w. bush in 2000. jill stein basically elected donald trump in 2016. and the only possible thing this could do is bleed some moderate republicans off of voting for whoever the democratic nominee is. this thing is going nowhere. it's vanity. it's look at me. it's performance art. >> what's your response to that, andrew? is this, hey, look at me? >> well, even his description jumps straight to the presidential race, which is not where our focus is at all. our focus is on the 506,000 locally elected officials, school board members, city councilmembers, mayors, county executives because, again, in the majority of the country 70% of these races are uncompetitive or uncontested. the american people want real choice. we want to provide -- >> people obviously worry. these lower level races are obviously important. people worry about another 2016 scenario where a third-party candidate like jill stein or gary johnson cost hillary clinton the election. don't you think that putting yourself out there, putting this party out there as an alternative that appeals to

this is where you get ralph nader running on thursday not a difference -- running on a there-is-not-a-difference third-party venture. so it was a hinge point moment where underlying processes were happening -- witness the impeachment, but you can draw very different conclusions based on the behavior based on the party candidate, including al gore and george w. bush, who ran criticizing gingrich and dole, bush running as a compassionate conservative. that 2000 run by him for the classic model of, you know, throw out a bunch of kind of moderate positioning and bromides in the general election. >> we have close to reached the end of time. >> i was going to quickly throw something in. we often talk about polarization in terms of policy, but it is also this procedural radicalism, and if you think about 2000, everything from the brooks brothers riot to the supreme court ruling is procedural radicalism that has real consequences for how people perceive politics and the other party. >> yeah. >> i will try to be brief. full disclaimer, i am running on very little sleep. be patient with me, but i will try