congressman ralph north on norman, excuse me, ralph norman, thank you so much, sir, for being here.iate your time. >> my pleasure. >> all right, let's turn now to this i'm still feature when i walk in the room why wouldn't we talk about taylor swift? >> and we can talk about taylor swift. she apparently has a new admirer in donald trump. in an interview for a forthcoming book about the former president trump raved about the pop star's looks, telling the writer quote, i think she's beautiful, very beautiful. i find it very beautiful. i think she's liberal. she probably doesn't like trump. i hear she's very talented. i think she's very beautiful actually unusually beautiful trump, however, clearly seemed unable to forget his bad blood with swift over her 2020 endorsement of joe biden and throwing into question her political beliefs that she is liberal or is that just an act he asked during the interview, she's legitimately he liberal, it's not an act. it surprises me that a country star can be successful being liberal meghan. >> i mean, i think it's creepy the way he continues to talk

south carolina congressman ralph norman the house budget and services rules committee, you're on then regard to the deficit and debt. >> we don't have ten years we put the numbers out at 60 trillion accounting, the interest on the debt alone in the whole military budget, the biden ship is sink in this country is doing intelligently and we had a call with the ceo directory and he said how immigration was going to be a net gain for america because of the jobs that they will sell the taxes they will pay. it is insanity added over karine jean-pierre is getting her mouth but it's wrong and the problem with the figures that we can trust it does include social security, medicare, medicare and the debt itself is compounding every minute. i think the 266,000 per person is more like 300,000 that is digging is so deep that we can get out. maria: something you said is really striking, joe biden is sinking this country and is doing it intentionally. maria: why? how is that possible. can you explain that, why joe biden would be sinking the country into an intentionally. >> he's clueless to begin w

the rest of the folks in that room, bob goode and ralph norman who endorsed desantis and nikki haley, they got back into trump's corner. even from orange county, california, competitive race, michelle steele, she is now -- just last week at a fund-raiser for donald trump in newport beach. so really there is no dissent in that room here and no dissent among those who potentially could grab the ear of donald trump. >> sarah, the politics for them as house members is one thing. it is an entirely different calculation and it is why you see the trump campaign walking away from trump's smear against soldiers who die or are injured serving the united states of america. you see a different scramble from the trump campaign itself. >> the trump campaign because i think they are trying to win the people on his campaign despite many of, like, the way that trump has no interest in sort of inviting nikki haley voters back into the tent, the campaign is trying to figure out how to win and they know things like suckers and losers are one of the things that are a big liability for trump and we hear th