and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition ralph reed. welcome all. bowl sunday. >> thank you. >> david, i want to start with chuck hagel. you heard what leon panetta said. the political knives were out. >> it was him. you ever had this nightmare you're back in college, you've been nominated to be the defense secretary, you haven't done any studying all term, and the confirmation hearing is in five minutes? it looked like that. unprepared. even to defend himself. look strong. he's being attacked for his integrity, honesty. hit back. demand some time. defend yourself. you've got to do that because you have to have the confidence of the president to get the job and the confidence of the generals in the building. this is a problem. if i were chuck hagel, i'd go to the president right now and say, do you still have confidence in me? do you think i can do the job? >> you would offer to withdraw? >> you have to if you think you won't be effective because of what's happened.çó i think you have to ask privately that question. >> ana, a lot of the conversation

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chris hayes of msnbc invited to speak on a panel with ralph reed.ol that they asked him. >> yes, the conservative political action conference has invited me to speak this march. specifically invited to be part of the financial "csi" washington, along with andrea burckle, michael barone and ralph reed. i'd be gracing the stage from activists from marco rubio to sarah palin to mitt romney who have used the occasion to flaunt their conservative bona fides. >> how do you know americans are conservatives, here's why? how come liberals never admit they're liberals? >> i was a severely conservative republican governor. >> we must outsmart the liberals. we must outsmart the stupid people trying to run america. >> keep your change. we'll keep our guns, our god, our prostitution. >> the form letter invitation i received even paid me the slightly odd compliment of calling me one of america's leading conservative voices as in "as one of america's leading conservative voices your participation in cpac 2013 will be critical to our efforts." my initial reaction is

people like ralph reed, the head of the southern baptist convention. what's the position?tting involved now? >> this is a real change in the temperature here in washington on the immigration debate. the christian right which in the past has been quiet on immigration are really opposed to any kind of reform is now actively working for it. we have pastors talking about it. we have religious right leaders on the hill meeting with members behind the scenes. ralph reed is head of the faith and freedom coalition, says that he sees a night-and-day difference in the attitudes of the evangelicals he talked to. so his group yesterday came out with their principles for immigration reform. but now here's the catch. their principles are very different than what's being talked about in the senate. two of the four are respect for the rule of law. then you throw in visa reform and keeping families together. and that's the rub. there's this plan in the senate which is moving along, has marco rubio behind it, but then just yesterday in the house, the judiciary at the chairman, bob goodlat o

invited chris hayes, host of "up with chris hayes" here on msnbc invited to speak on a panel with ralph reed nobody would talk to me to save my life other than the john birch guys talking to me about fluoride and mind control. but they have invited chris hayes this year which is very interesting and cool. i don't know if he is going to go, but i think it's cool that they asked him. also, there is this happening on day one of cpac. it is a panel, one of the first official events on the first day of cpac events. look what it is called. too many american wars? should we fight anywhere, and can we afford it? this is cpac. this is the conservative comic con. i mean, even asking a question about whether we might be fighting too many wars, i don't know what their answer will be to this question, but given where american conservatives have been in recent years on this issue, the fact that they are asking it as a question is itself news and really interesting. and we're going to have more on that in just a second, along with our last preview of the new msnbc documentary that i'm going to be hosting h