that's highly unusual, despite what ralph reed says, and disturbing as well.oining us is political commentator and republican strategist alice stewart. also joining us is april ryan. alice, did you ever think you would see the day when mike pence would get called a traitor at christian conservative conference? >> never. he's truly a face for the faith and freedom, traitor is about someone who betraying their friend, their country and their principles. that is not mike pence. here's what he did on the day on january 6th. he told the president and the country, i cannot stand in the way of the certification of these election results, in his role as president of the senate. he is there to certify, not obstruct. he is there to overseed certification of the results. that's exactly what he did. rational republicans realize he was doing his job and upholding the constitution. >> april, you saw ralph reed downplaying this. >> you cannot downplay what happened to him, like you cannot downplay what happened on january 6th. this is a minor offshoot, you if you will, of wh

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those words. the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. >> joining us now is nbc news political correspondent ali vitale. ali, this is an early start to the primary. tell us what you collected yesterday in your reporting, including what happened on that stage a couple hours ago. >> reporter: very early start to our conversations about 2024, but i hope you'll allow me, as a fellow politico, because moving over all of this is the shadow of the former president donald trump. you saw it there in the clip you just showed, mike pence having a higher tightrope to walk really than any other republicans here because of the part he played in upholding the election results on january 6 in washington, d.c. we know that's something that's lingering with some in the trump base. clearly you heard it there, one woman in the crowd shouting "traitor." others around him, even though pence ignored the comment, were saying, no, no, and trying to get the woman to be quiet. that just goes to show the juggling ac

. >> and i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words. i'm deeply humbled by them. ralph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative, and a republican in that order and i am honored to stand before you today. >> with that let's bring in our lead off guests on this friday night. shannon pettypiece, veteran journalist and senior white house reporter over at nbc digital. frank figliuzzi, former assistant fbi director for counter intel. also host of the new podcast called "the bury." and keith mays, author of african studies. as a great man once said some days it's like one step up and two steps back. on the pandemic front just when we have a good stretch along comes a reminder that there's still work to do. what's the real level of concern at the institution you cover on this delta variant? >> well, i think that the concern is trying to figure out a way to get to the people who still haven't gotten vaccinated. obviously administration officials knew there was this low h

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly -- >> i am a christian and a conservative and a republican in that ords. i am honored to stand before you today. >> well, we know why pence got the traitor treatment, right? because on january 6th and his role as vice president, he upheld the constitution and the will of the american people and did not bow to trump's insane demand to overturn joe biden's victory. for that, on january 6th, he was met with these chants. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> let me say it again, a gallow was brought to the capitol hill to hang the vice president of the united states. mike pence had to be safely evacuated from the house floor as rioters broke into the chamber. mike pence put country above trump's crazy requests to overturn the election so trump could remain in office. for that, he gets heckled by the same people who would be the first to lecture you or anyone about law and order and the constitution. he did something that should be deemed in any circle as patriotic. the twice impeached and one-term, sore-loser still gets a free

and i am honored to stand before you today. >> reporter: he mentioned ralph reed. he is the founder of the faith and freedom coalition. i got a chance to ask him about the booing. number one, he played down the number of people actually participating. i think i counted between something like a half dozen and a dozen. i can't tell you exactly how many people were engaged in that. the other thing ralph reed points out is that as far as he is concerned, the party is still a big tent and people have room to disagree. jim? >> and at the same conference, ted cruz made some outlandish comments about critical race theory being taught in schools. what more can you tell us about that? >> reporter: i absolutely lost count of the number of people who got on the stage and talked about critical race theory. senator cruz who showed up also yesterday really sort of took it to a completely different level. listen. >> critical race theory says every white person is a racist. critical race theory says america is fundamentally racist, irredeemably racist. it seeks to turn us against e

. >>> tonight on "all in" -- >> i want to thank my friend, ralph reed, for those overly generous words. i'm deeply humbled by them. >> mike pence heckled by his own party faithful, as new video emerges of the violence on the capital on 6th. and the fbi starts questioning insurrectionists about their questions with members of congress. and then, as the bogus arizona audit starts to wrap up, the republican fight against voting rights expands across the country. >> i've taken a look at all of these new state laws. >> beto o'rourke is rallying for voters in texas and joins me live tonight. >>> plus -- >> how many holidays do we want? what's the magic number? this would put it to 11. do we want 20? >> barely a day old and the attacks against the juneteenth national holiday have already begun when "all in" starts right now. 33. >>> there is breaking news tonight out of the district court in washington, d.c. we now know that at least one suspect in the january 6th riot is being questioned by the fbi about potential ties to any right-wing extremist groups or members of congress. nbc news has o

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words.by them. ralph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative, and a republican in that order. and i am honored to stand before you today. >> joining me now is the host of a host on sirius xm, and david jolly, a former republican congressman who is no longer affiliated with the party. mine pence should be happy they didn't start chanting hang mike pence, which is an oldie but a goody. your thoughts. >> some did chant traitor. can we just judgment to d.l. hughley, we'll have better content talking to him than listening to those who were pandering to white evangelicals in the republican party down in florida. look, i mean, this is one more day that affirms how far the party has gotten from some type of conservative construction, some idealogical construction that is the pulse of the party. you're right, they are in this listless moment where they're still trying to figure out how to cater to donald trump but where the

. >> and i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words. >> traitor! >> i'm deeply humbled by them. ralph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative, and a republican in that order, and i am honored to stand before you today. >> pence has been criticized, of course, by former president donald trump since pence provided over the joint session of congress that certified election results on january 6th. now, some of the pro-trump rioters who stormed the capitol that day even threatened to hang pence. despite all of that, pence has still showered his former boss with praise in friday's speech. presence is rumored to be considering a future presidential bid. >>> many republicans have been trying to whitewash what happened at the capitol on january 6th. never mind that hundreds of suspected rioters have been arrested and face prosecutions and jail and that many of them can be seen doing what they did on video and social media posts. well, now the u.s. justice department is releasing mo

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words. >> traitor!he introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. >> if you couldn't make it out there was a woman in the crowd and ali told me yesterday, a woman calling out to the vice president traitor. my understanding is that she was subsequently taken out. as i came in i talked about the fact that these are potential 2024 candidates which make my stomach turn thinking about that. as being around the corner but nonetheless -- >> reporter: i'm excited about this. >> talk us through what we're hering today and what we can expect ahead. >> reporter: as much as the shadow primary for republicans is happening in ballrooms like this one, the focus of this conference is the path back to the majority for republicans. the tone of it is really a continue wags of what we heard over the course of the trump years stoking culture wars by talking about red meat as opposed to harder policy. for example, the idea of critical race theory is something that's mentioned and derided by most of the speakers here. that

. >> i want to thank my friend, ralph reed, for those overly generous words.alph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. >> in addition to people yelling that mike pence is a traitor from the state to the faith and freedom conference, we also heard this week about the catholic church here in the u.s. taking a step closer to denying communion to president biden because of his views on abortion. this is really turning a lot of people off from the work of evangelism from the possibility of winning people over to christ, which is essential to the southern baptist convention. where do you draw the line in the merging of and politics scripture? >> that's a great question. as a pastor, here's where i draw the line. i have very strong conservative theology and strong political views. but i'm called to make disciples of the people in my church and people of my community disciples of jesus, not of a party. i am to make disciples to follow jesus and live by his teachings. my job is to help people know the word of god and to kn

. >>> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words. me well enough. >> yep, a not so warm welcome for former vice president mike pence in a crowd of religious conservatives yesterday. the former vp was greeted with boos and being called a traitor while speaking at the faith and freedom coalition in florida, a common stop for gop hopefuls pondering a 2020 white house run. joining me now is zerlina maxwell and host of the show zerlina on peacock. curt bardella contributor and democratic campaign committee adviser and elise jordan, former aide in the george w. bush white house and msnbc political analyst and my friends on saturday. so it's good to see you guys. thank you for being here. >> elise, you first, because this is not the crowd you'd think would be booing or heckling the vice president. what do you make of that? >> at this point, all bets are off. look at the crowd that stormed the capitol yelling "hang mike pence," this is a teeny bit lighter and it wasn't violent and it wasn't an insurrectionist mob using medievel fighting and

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words.eed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative, and a republican, in that order. and i am honored to stand before you today. >> you get georgia's secretary of state, brad raffensperger, who personally stood up to donald trump, rebuffed his attempt to over turn the election in hifavor, planning a purge of over 100,000 names from voter rolls. refusing to accept reality, donald trump has convinced his party and supporters if you did not vote for him, your vote does not count. and there are really alarming new numbers that completely back up that fiction among the base. that's next. slam, pan, still...fresh move, move, move, move aaaaand still fresh. degree. ultimate freshness activated when you move. welcome to allstate. ♪ ♪ you already pay for car insurance, why not take your home along for the ride? allstate. here, better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands. click or call to bundle today. feeling sl

ralph reed knows me well enough -- >> that was just the start.snbc correspondent ali vitali has more. >> guys, good morning. the shadow primary for the republican nomination in 2024 is starting to happen in ballrooms like this one. look no further than the list of speakers from over the course of this conference. people like governor ron desantis speaking tonight and former vice president mike pence among those who addressed the conference here yesterday. you mentioned he was heckled briefly at the beginning of his remarks, a woman in the crowd shouting "traitor" as he started his remarks. pence was met with cheers and applause during his roughly 30 minutes of talking here. same goes for several other senators who we might see mount bids for president. all off this is the early jockeying not just for 2024, but ahead of the 2022 midterms. many senators and other lawmakers focused on taking back majorities in the house and the senate before we get to the next presidential nominating contest. now, looming over all of this, of course, is former presi

ralph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter [ crowd yellingistian, a conservative, and a republican in that order >> seth: man, that's like getting booed throwing out the first pitch at a baseball game in your home state -- which also happened to mike pence >> mike pence. boo! you suck >> seth: booing is one thing but they're calling pence a traitor, and he tries to just keep giving his speech, and act like it's not happening. pence could use a smithers right about now. "oh, they're not saying traitor, they're saying tr-yay-tor. also, it's a gathering of religious conservatives called the faith and freedom coalition. pence should be able to walk into that place like norm walking into "cheers." "mike! what's shaking, mr. pence? "the knees of the faithless, woody. if pence should be popular anywhere, it's there and yet he's still getting booed. that's like the kardashians getting booed on e >> did you get kendall a present? >> i did >> what did you get? >> something for her lake house. [ crowd booing ] >> oh, nice. >> you suck. >> seth: and, yea

. >> and i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those generous words. reed knows me the introduction i like is a little shorter, i'm a christian, a conservative and a republican in that order! >> the one woman you heard was shouting traitor and was escorted out. the former vice president ignored the outburst and continued with his speech. joining us now professor at the lyndon b. john school of affairs, victoria de-francisco soto, kasie hunt and donny deutsch is with us as well. joe, i want to back up and start with you in terms of what happened at this conservative event with mike pence. these people who are screaming at the former vice president, it is on the concept that he didn't stop the process. that he's a traitor. they're saying traitor because he didn't stop the process of democracy. and this, again, and i'm not saying it, you know, to be whatever to cause -- to make waves here, but this is a cult. this is following a leader who is clearly trying to like build that following on lines. and they are following blindly. >> well, it is -- it is cert

governor desantis speaking at ralph reed state, the freedom coalition.ext, marsha blackburn had dinner with kamala harris and she tells us what happened to come in next. ♪ ♪ >> sean: now as vice president. is still reeling from her disastrous trip to central america earlier this evening she invited off 24 female senators who are on the washington. to tell us how it went, republican senator of the great state of tennessee marsha blackburn. okay, i'm dying to know it all, what happened? >> this is the annual bipartisan women of the senate dinner and since vice president harris was senator harris she invited the women to the vice presidents. it was a lovely event, she was gracious to host. she invited us all even though she knows when she was in the senate was the most conservative member of the senate. but if she had brought up policy i would have loved to have said mina vice president you need to get to the board and that's concern as with the biden policy this policy is an apt and 187 187,000 people across, this is got to be addressed. >> sean: got to be

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for the overly generous words.ws me well enough the introduction i prefer is shorter. i'm a cris i can't be, a conservative and a republican. in that order. >> yeah. there was a lot of shouts. boos and shouts of traitor greeting mike pence at what should be the sweet spot. where will the republican party be in 2022? >> yeah. hey, claire, good to see you in the seat. how much humiliation can one man take that he's willing to go and stand there and continue to suck up to donald trump after he had a mob shouting hang mike pence and now fans in the audience calling him a traitor? i think the republicans have some things working for them in 2022 that david laid out. like the rev laid out. as far as motivation to go out and go against biden where maybe the democrats won't have a boogieman on the ticket as much but some things work in the disfavor. two democratic senators in georgia is because of that very conflict within the party that you saw at the speech at the faith and freedom conference. a certain amount of hardlin

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words. >> traitor! >> i'm deeply humbled by them. he knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative and a republican in that order. and i am honored to stand before you today. >> what is your reaction to that? >> if you told me five years ago that mike pence who's -- in congress and governor of indiana there's a debate of him being a conservative, would yell and say he was a traitor at a republican cattle call event like that. i honestly wouldn't have believed it. maybe at rudy giuliani that ran for president as a moderate. sure. mike pence? why is he a traitor? not on conservative grounds. he is a traitor because he refused to go outside of the constitutional role given to him as vice president and somehow again the details are very vague, somehow overturn the electoral collection and because donald trump said that he didn't do what he could have done. if you literally just scratch the surface you see that's not the case at all and i'll remind people

. ♪♪ ♪♪ >>> and i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words.introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative, and a republican in that order, and i am honored to stand before you today. >> good morning, and welcome back to "the cross connection," everybody. look, whatever you're talking about at brunch with your girls or at the shop with your boys or at the couch, at the crib, so are we. you know who i bet feels like a sucker this morning, mike pence. the trump super fan and former vice president was called a traitor at a gathering of religious conservatives, in quote, all because he wouldn't do their dear leader's bidding and overturn an election and we have new video of the insurrectionists who did actually try to violently overturn the election on january 6th. at the request of the media, the feds have released new, disturbing video that includes a former new york police officer allegedly striking officers with a flag pole. the allegory speaks for itself. keep an eye on the man in the red jacket. >> no! no! [ bl

ralph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit short.'m a christian, a conservative, a republican in that order and i am honored to stand before you p. but on friday he praised trump in his speech. >>> many republicans have been trying to whitewash what happened at the capitol on january 6th. never mind, that hundreds of suspected rioters have been arrested and face prosecutions and many can be seen on video and social media. more footage of the riots are being released. now we have to give you a word of warning here. the videos are very graphic and also contain profanity. paula reed reports. >> reporter: newly released footage showing an up-close look at what officers protecting the capitol went through during the january 6th attack. these new videos revealed after cnn and other media outlets sued for them in court, showing scott fairlamb, a gym owner from new jersey, taunting, then shoving an officer and punching him in the face. >> no, they work for us. fuck them! >> a former marine and retired nypd officer is seen here wearing a red

ralph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit short.istian, a conservative, and a republican in that order and i am honored to stand before you today. >> it's painful to watch and embarrassing for mike pence at this point. he didn't mention january 6th in his speech the day that trump supporters called for him to be hanged. laura, does mike pence have any political future detached from the former president? >> it's a difficult question to answer, boris. right now, it appears as though he doesn't because of the fact that pence was his vice president and pence stood alongside the president throughout those four years and despite the fact that some of the base has turned against him, pence rarely, if ever, stood up to the president or confronted the president. a lot of the base is upset with him because of the lies that trump spread right after the election saying that pence had the power to stop the certification of biden's legitimate win and pence decided -- he really didn't have the power to do that. so he just simply oversaw the certif

. >> ralph reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative and a republican, in that order. >> and over the weekend here at the white house, some sad news to announce, willie. the passing of the biden family's older dog champ. the german shepherd died peacefully at home at the age of 13 and was known to his humans, the president and first lady, of course, as a, quote, constant, cherished companion. willie? >> very sad news and by all accounts a very good dog. monica alba at the white house. thanks so much. >>> chuck todd is nbc's political director and moderator of "meet the press." good morning. it's good to see you. >> president biden goes overseas for eight days and comes home to find not much has changed and the fights that monica laid out on infrastructure, voting rights and police reform, it's nice for democrats that joe manchin has some kind of a compromise, but that doesn't get you anywhere with republicans, does it? >> no, it doesn't. cynically, i was wondering what if stacy abrams had come out against

. >> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words.ed by them. he knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian. a conservative and a republican, in that order. and i am -- >> john, isn't that wild given that mike pence has been a christian conservative, i mean, since, i mean, since birth, i think? >> well, i can't vouch for his childhood years but the seriousness of the situation is you cannot compromise with this kind of corrosive crazy. mike pence is never going to make the people who were trying to -- chanting that he should be hung on the capitol steps like him. and he should stop trying. but he should also use his position as a former vice president to call out this much more clearly. and the fact is he's always going to get called a traitor by the extremes. that is a sign of how insane the circumstances right now. if he can't figure out that, that the smartest thing politically would be to tell the truth, then i don't know what -- >> okay. i would just like to interject, jim. i w

. >>> i want to thank my friend ralph reed for those overly generous words. i'm humbled by them.bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative and a republican in that order. >> traitor. that's what an attendee called mike pence in a speech yesterday. the former vp heckled while at the faith & freedom coalition in florida. a popular stop for a 2024 presidential hopeful. ali vitale is joining us from that conference. not a warm welcome for pence. what have you been hearing from the top conservatives there? >> reporter: a tense moment there for the former vice president and a reminder trying to chart this path forward at the early part towards a 2024 presidential run there's clearly some dissension in the republican ranks over the role that mike pence played specifically the decision to uphold the election results january 6. talking about the insurrection of that day and clearly a woman in a crowd of many hundreds taking issue with that heckling the former vice president but by and large pence is here to bolster the credentials among the republican base. and he's not alone here. much