i don't think that is true about ralph steadman's stuff. i think that he is ablaze and smart and in touch with some ultimate truths, so there is a place that they don't want to go do that. >> [inaudible] thinking about the other side which is not to say they are separate entirely but for instance the right-wing extremist cartoons which i really can't think of any right now but we have so many controversy issues like climate change and to place at all these issues that are so contentious and their must be brave cartoonist's on the other side and i thinking if you have these powerful cartoons coming out from the right wing extremists, who whims the better artist or how do you answer those? >> the short answer is i don't know the answer to that question but i would think that the better artist has something to do about it but the smarter and more profound thinker has something to do with it and nothing would make me more interested among my own failures of a boxing fan fantasy and the olympics of cartoonists against each other on both sides of

i don't think that is true of ralph's dead men -- ralph steadman and he is wise and some large and in touch with ultimate truth. there is a place they don't want to do that. [inaudible] >> i can't hear. >> thinking about the other side. not that they are separate entirely but the right wing extremists cartoons which i really can't think of any right now but so many controversial issues like climate change and choice and all of these issues that are so contentious and there must be great cartoonists on the other side and i am thinking so if you have these powerful cartoons coming out from right-wing extremists, who wins? the better artist? how do you answer those? >> the short answer is i don't know the answer to that question but i would think the better artist has something to do with it, but the smarter and more profound thinker has something to do with it. nothing would make me more interested among my other failings, i am a boxing fan, than to see an alembics of cartoonist's against each other on both sides of the issue. knowing there are two sides to an issue doesn't mean both si