ramaposa also said that the root cause of the current conflict is israel's occupation of palestine. "the root cause of all this conflict is the illegal occupation of palestine territory by israel as reflected in the un security council resolution 2334, which states that israeli settlements constitute a flagrant violation under international law. well, for more on africa's response the humanitarian crisis in gaza, we have contacted, he is a political analyst and host of the malcol'. podcast in new york, thank you for your time, sir today, thank you so much for having me uh, we also have ron curls, former minister of intelligence services of south africa, thank you for accepting our invitation sir, i'm very happy to be with you from johannesburg, south africa, great to everybody. okay, now let's start off with mr. madu, as you've seen there, south africa welcome the humanitarian pose in gaza, but call for more efforts in thicking long-term and enduring. peace in the decades long conflict in palestine, what's your take on this statement by the south african president? deeply appreciate