i be ramesh has a lot better answer. >> woodruff: massive instability, ramesh? >> well you know the president's eeets today attacking federal reserve chairman that he himself appointed declaring china an enemy but posibly not as much of an enemy as that they were appalling tweets but one of the points he made was absolutely true, intellectual property theft, is thosere real abuses. but trump has created a problem for himself, backed himlf in the cornl he. he has said that he is going to those abuses seriously and holds china to account. the way he's done it, doing it unilaterally, without a team of his own negotiators is not and i think that is the frustration that is boiling up in these tweets and now boiling up in actual tariffs. >> woodruff: so mark can we write it off then to just frustration with the problemsha that he' inside his administration >> judy, every presidency, you know, i've been thrgh 11 of them now is a mereflection of the mafn at the top and womanally there will be a at the top about.but the strengths and weaknesses of that individual. donald

>> ramesh, this is the only place where the oil and gas industry is on the same page.o, we're good with those. >> no, i do think that this is a case where you have an ideological goal that's being prude and it's not interestingly being driven by business. but to get back to the cost issue. >> well, that's the problem. >> 68% of people in a poll a couple months ago said they wouldn't spend more than $10 an extra in every month's electricity bill to fight global warming. and even once you get past the question of what's the science here, that's going to be the big sticking point. >> i think it's on policy. stephanie, the public has spoken whether it's australia's public, france's public, washington state. the carbon tax isn't going to be the right way to do this. we're going to have to as a policy come up with another way to find the money. >> another way to find the money, but also marshall across sectors and communities to move it forward. the wrong way to do it is. >> you know, part of the reason oil and gas liked the methane rule that the president rolled back today